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exclamation.gif posted on 5-3-2017 at 07:34 PM
Oud buzzing demystified video


Hello everyone. Many people have posted about issues on the oud with "buzzing". I hope this video sheds light and demystifies issues with buzzing on the oud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPRvng77Hjk





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[*] posted on 5-3-2017 at 07:55 PM


John...this is a very good and useful video. Haven't seen one like it before. Thanks for doing this.



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[*] posted on 5-3-2017 at 10:22 PM


Thank you Mike, I'll likely make a couple more videos about useful maintenance related issues.



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[*] posted on 5-3-2017 at 11:38 PM


Very interesting. Thank you mike !



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[*] posted on 5-4-2017 at 07:31 AM


Well done hermano! Very in depth, shows you how fussy an oud can be really. As a player you have to know how to tweak it so it is set it up right.




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[*] posted on 5-4-2017 at 09:49 AM


keep making them please , i know they'll come in handy for me , thanks so much !
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[*] posted on 5-4-2017 at 10:20 AM


Thank you John, that's a very good video .. I had a similar problem with my oud (fixed it now) and I recall researching the internet for clues without success .. I learnt how to fix it the hard way unfortunately!

Keep these useful videos coming please :-)




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[*] posted on 5-4-2017 at 04:01 PM


Thank you very much John. Great job.

very helpful and easy to follow instructions. looking forward to future videos.

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[*] posted on 5-5-2017 at 04:39 PM


Well done John !! Nice video



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[*] posted on 5-6-2017 at 05:26 AM


Thank you John for this video, very good !!

You guys (Luthiers), you should share more videos like this, as we ''oudist'' do in order to help as understanding our instrument. I think that anything about the oud construction will be welcomed by the oud community.
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[*] posted on 5-6-2017 at 09:17 AM


I did forget to mention in this video the concept of the "sweet buzz". There is a kind of buzz if it is slight and right, adds to the heavenly sound of the oud. Of course there are others who cannot stand the sound of even a slight buzz. This is very psychological as well. But I agree, most buzzing must be stopped.



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[*] posted on 5-8-2017 at 03:49 AM


And there is the Turkish oud, which is supposed to have a "wet" sound!
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[*] posted on 5-8-2017 at 05:50 AM


that kind of buzzing can be solved by sniffing some mineral spirits :P



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[*] posted on 5-8-2017 at 03:33 PM


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[*] posted on 5-8-2017 at 03:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SamirCanada  
that kind of buzzing can be solved by sniffing some mineral spirits :P


Thats how I solve all my problems :)




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[*] posted on 5-9-2017 at 02:05 AM


Thanks for the video. I was searching around in the board also and probably it has been discussed several times, but I couldn't find a clear answer. Is there any way to fix the buzzing caused by a worn off fingerboard other than just sanding it down? After I've changed my strings it's already the second time I have to fix it, and I'm afraid one day there won't be much left of the fingerboard. Maybe the wood is not hard enough or I kept using my strings for too long. I've heard about oud builders using some kind of "glue" or something called "Altico" or "Altiko". I don't know how to write it and couldn't find any information anywhere. The one who told me was also didn't seem to be sure about the name.
It's the usual third position buzz by the way.
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[*] posted on 5-9-2017 at 02:28 AM


I prefer sniffing spirits and keep Turkish buzzing. Ofcourse I am in Amsterdam :-)
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[*] posted on 5-9-2017 at 07:31 AM


bugaga, when you say "worn off fingerboard" do you mean depressions made by the strings? If that's the case the way to avoid it change the strings more often. Also, keep the nails on your left hand short, they tend to dig into the fingerboard. But as far as to fix the problem I don't recommend glue as it tends to be softer than the wood, even if its mixed with saw dust to fill the grooves. The only solution is to plane the fingerboard. I rarely take sand paper or a file to the fingerboard's surface unless I need to.



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[*] posted on 5-9-2017 at 09:39 AM


So John, is it really the sweat and dirt that wears the wood? I would think pressing the metal of the strings to the wood constantly produces the grooves
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[*] posted on 5-9-2017 at 12:59 PM


The acid from the sweat produces a corrosion that I believe wears the fingerboard faster than if the strings were new. This is a conclusion I came to, a friend of mind doesn't think this plays a role in the wear of the fingerboard, but my experience seeing people's instruments tells me something different. As I said above, fingernails also etch the wood, as well as just regular playing for sure.




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[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 10:49 PM


Yes, I was talking about those depressions. I'm not playing with my nails that often, just for certain articulations, and also started cleaning my strings after each playing - maybe late. So I guess I should sand it - again. This also will increase the action tiny step by tiny step. It's a little high already.
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