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hakeem.ram
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Percussion Synthesizer/Machine Software
Salam All!
I have been wondering if there is such a thing as a drum machine software or something to that effect for the midle eastern percussions.
Should any of you have any of such info, pls reply. Surely this would help and benefit us all.
Peace
Hakeem
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mourad_X
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hi hakeem
i use the wizoo darbouka plug-in
http://m-audio.com/products/en_us/VirtualPercussionistDarbuka-main....
it souunds great
regards
mourad
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Greg
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Hakeem,
I also have Wizoo Darbuka. It does sound great, but there are obviously considerations other then sound.
Please U2U me your email address and I will explain more about this product.
Regards,
Greg
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dubai244
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Hi Mourad,
Thank you very much, you did a big favour for me without you know!. About a year back, i was planning to buy What they call it "Rythem
Box" Which is a small device Cost About 500 $ minimum and it can play Rythems and you can store Rythems you like in it and play it as long as you
like!. and the good one cost about 3500$.
However, one of my friends gaves a software Called "SoundForge7.0" and it does same job as the Rythems Box and i got it for free.
With Sound Forge i can store any Rythems i like from "ANY SOURCE" such as CD, Songs........etc and it will store as "Pure Rythem without music, i can
play it as LOOP and i can play my OUD with it,!!
So your Web Site is Very very very good source for me now!!!   
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hakeem.ram
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Thank you people for your ideas, though I must say that the software is a bit too expensive for a starter and also for someone who is still a student.
(God!! I have been studying for a bit too long I guess!)
Anyway nice ideas and do tell me if you have other ideas.
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dubai244
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Hi Hakeem,
You can get free " Sound Forge 7.0" from net as trial for 30 days. Try "downloads.net or .com" you can try it or you can get it from
" Kazaa or I-mesh" programes.
Good Luck
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hakeem.ram
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Hi Dubai244
I would rather recomend the software which was earlier recommended in this forum somewhere Audacity. it is a freeware and pretty powerful too. more or
less like the kinda software that i was working with when i was a part time radio DJ before.
Cheers
Hakeem
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stringmanca
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Here's the Audacity link:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
Happy New Year!
Nathan
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Jonathan
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Sort of related, I guess.
I am in the process of switching over to Mac from PC. For those who don't have it, Mac has this cool recording software called GarageBand. It is
basic compared to the other music recording/processing programs they have (Logic, etc), but it is more than I will ever need.
I am in the habit of pretty much ripping off rhythm tracks off pre-recorded music. I had been using just the Amazing Slow Downer for this, but the
mac makes it a lot easier.
on to the question:
Are there pre-recorded middle eastern/near eastern rhythm loops that are available, without spending hundreds of dollars? I can always go on
sampling material off of cds that I have--it is not like I am releasing anything, it is just for practice. But, if there is something else out there,
please let me know.
There really isn't too much in the Garage Band loops as far as this. They list all sorts of rhythms, but, for example, I couldn't find any
percussion/drums at all for 9/8. Even if there was, I have my doubts as to whether it would be "our" 9/8 (2 2 2 3).
Thanks, guys. I am a mac newbie, so don't get too technical on me.
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Tablah23
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how can u use this plugin, u need a program such as pro tools to run along with it? those programs are little too expensive for my blood, are there
any prog, that i can use this wizoo plug in with, nothing seriouse, just too mess around with. thanx.-Romeo
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mjamed
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Guys,
I have Yamaha PSR-A1000 keyboard just for this purpose. I use it as a drum machine !
It has most of the arabic rythems ! And they're pleanty of websites to download a lot other ones for free !
It has arabic, iraqi, khaliji and western rythems !
You can change the tempo, change the style, create your own as well.
it's great ! It has been used in many new songs in the market ! and it's not expensive !
I bought it from Dubai for 666 $ a year ago !
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Bartolus
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Percussion Studio
http://henrykellner.com/PercussionStudio/í
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Benjamin
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Does somebody simply has rythms he/she could post here to download as I didn't manage to use all of these free programs
Thanks, Benjamin
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abdulo
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Hi,
How can I play Arabic scales with regular MIDI keyboard with no quarter tones keyboard connected to my PC , in other way What software can play
quarter tons.
Thanks
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Jason
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If your keyboard has a pitch wheel you can use it to approximate quarter tones
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abdulo
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Yes but not practical, is there other way?
For example in arabic keyboard you can have option that when you play Do or Mi .....it will be as half sharp or half flat(quarter). so is there
sofware that will give this option ??
Thanks
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abdulo
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Yes but not practical, is there other way?
For example in arabic keyboard you can have option that when you play Do or Mi .....it will be as half sharp or half flat(quarter). so is there
sofware that will give this option ??
Thanks
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Benjamin
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As nobody answered my question, I simply repost it:
Does somebody simply has rythms he/she could post here to download as I didn't manage to use all of the free programs mentionned here
Thanks, Benjamin
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Greg
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Abdulo,
If you go to the considerable expense of purchasing high-end notation software like "Finale" and then the further expense in the time to learn this
type of difficult software, you can achieve what you are wanting to do. Finale has the capability of producing quarter tones, but it requires a lot of
skill and hard work.
As far as I know, there is no easy, quick or inexpensive way to do it.
Benjamin,
If you search the net, you will find a few commercial CDs of middle-eastern drumming samples (loops). Once you have one or more of these, you can
bring the samples into the types of software that have been recommended to you and build your own drum tracks.
The other option would be to team up with a real percussionist and work on your playing together. This, to my mind, is a far superior method.
Regards,
Greg
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abdulo
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Thanks Greg,
I do have Siblelies V.3.0 it support quarter tone and I know how to use it.
But I have to play it first with no quarter tone from the keyboard and then convert it from the screen after finishing to quarter ton.
So does finale convert my normal keyboard to Arabic keyboard, when I play I can hear the quarter tone?
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Greg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by abdulo
So does finale convert my normal keyboard to Arabic keyboard, when I play I can hear the quarter tone? |
I am not an expert on midi, but as far as I am aware any midi keyboard should be able to reproduce any pitch that is sent to it. I have a standard
Roland synth module that does.
I have just reread your question and perhaps I am not understanding your requirments. My suggestion was based on the assumption that your computer
software and midi interface will be the master and your keyboard the slave.
If you actually want to play the keyboard and hear the quarter tones in realtime I think you would need to buy an oriental keyboard or at least
investigate if your keyboard's firmware can be tweaked.
Regards,
Greg
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Benjamin
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Thanks Greg. Indeed it's better to play along with a real human, but I don't know any percussionist. I'll try to find some of theses cd's, but if
somebody has some loops rythms audio files, I would be happy!
Regards, Benjamin
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abdulo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Greg
| Quote: | Originally posted by abdulo
So does finale convert my normal keyboard to Arabic keyboard, when I play I can hear the quarter tone? |
I am not an expert on midi, but as far as I am aware any midi keyboard should be able to reproduce any pitch that is sent to it. I have a standard
Roland synth module that does.
I have just reread your question and perhaps I am not understanding your requirments. My suggestion was based on the assumption that your computer
software and midi interface will be the master and your keyboard the slave.
If you actually want to play the keyboard and hear the quarter tones in realtime I think you would need to buy an oriental keyboard or at least
investigate if your keyboard's firmware can be tweaked.
Regards,
Greg |
Ok let me try to make it clear.
I want to play from my midi keyboard connected to PC and hear the sound from the PC as quarter tone.
Thanks
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Jason
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abdulo...try this
http://www.programurl.com/software-mazzika-downloadnow.html
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abdulo
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Thanks Jason
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