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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 03:27 AM
#1-Music sheet and audio by jabakji


Many of you surely know the old "Learning Oud" book by AbdulRaman Jabakji. Long ago the guy was also selling tapes with himself playing the lessons (the tapes cannot be found anymore)
A friend of mine has converted them all to audio files.
For me it was (and still) a great learning to have the music sheet along with Jabakji playing them.
I can post one from time to time if you think it is interesting for you guys.
Just let me know.
I am posting (on 2 posts) the music sheet and the mp3 of Lounga Boussalek of Al Tanboury as transcripted and played (and commented) by Jabakji.
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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 03:30 AM


The music sheet
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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 04:45 AM
thanksssssssss


:xtreme::xtreme::xtreme:

Thanks Alami - could you post more? I'd really appreciate it.

Have a great day

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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 06:28 AM


Very interesting, may be next year after three hours a day i will be able to play it by heart. Then i will need to fight some more years to play the ornamentation, specially the tremolo, which the more i shake my twist the less i succeed it.

Thank you Alami for this good challenge....it is a very good ressource for learning oneself




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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 07:21 AM


Hi Zalzal,
I started learning oud about 14 months ago, the only free time I really have to practice is somewhere between 11pm and 1 am (unfortunate for my poor neighbours), no way to fit a teacher in this schedule,so I forced myself on the difficult pieces (samaiis and loungas), the trick was to use a sound editor (like Sony Sound forge) to split a partition into small pieces, one seperate file each, then I put them on my Ipod and make the Ipod settings to "Repeat" then I play with the music sheet infront and an earphone in one ear only, the first step is to memorize the first small part then to try to improve the tremolo and so on. After learning the small pieces I try to work the flow and the feeling of the whole song. The Jabakji book and audio files helped (and still helping) a lot.
It is very rewarding when you finally succeed in playing it all along with the master (after 2 weeks or so), and then, and only then, I start to experiment a personal way.
I don't know if oud teachers would approve this method but I think It is worth to try.
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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 07:57 AM


Thank you very much, Alami.
Very useful.
Do you have others ?
But I don't succed in saving the sound file on my computer.
Does anybody know how to process ?

Thank you.

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[*] posted on 1-6-2007 at 06:36 PM


First, thank you very much, Alami, more please.

Robert,
I got file from the cashe of web browser.




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[*] posted on 1-7-2007 at 12:18 AM


Very very much appreciated.
Speaking personally (and selfishly), this match between score in .jpeg and audio on mp3 suits me perfectly. Normally I'd have to transcribe the music note-by-note into NoteWorthy Composer in order to hear it and play oud along with it.
Following the score and the audio via mp3 player on my long travel to and from work each day makes the journey productive.
As a student currently working on Torun's "Metodo" chapter 2, this piece (and presumably other similar ones) works well (before things get really interesting in chapter 3...).
Many thanks.
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[*] posted on 1-7-2007 at 08:35 AM


Alami,
I use nearly the same method of you, but with a teacher.
I record him playing the sheet music with my mp3 player.
At home, I transfer the files on my computer and edit them with Adobe Audition.
It's a software very similar to Soundforge.
It allow you to slice a song in different parts.
It's also possible to slow down without affect the pitch.
That feature is very useful.
I currently use an old method by Jamil Bashir.

Branko,
I've heard about that method of using the cache.
It appears that it also could work for the video files of Youtube for example.
I tried but I don't succeed.
I use 'search' in the windows explorer with the name of the file.
But it don't find anything.
Note that I use mozilla firefox as web browser.
Thanks for the help.

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[*] posted on 1-8-2007 at 12:32 AM


Microber,

Path is something like this if you are using Widows:

C:\Documents and Settings\microber\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\4146xx0r.default\Cache

Files have meaningless names and do not have extensions. You have to guess by size or date stamp. You can force Win Media Player to open them for identification, than copy file elsewhere, with proper name extension. Clean the cashe before so you will have less files to examin.




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[*] posted on 1-8-2007 at 10:35 AM


Quote:
Originally posted by ALAMI
Many of you surely know the old "Learning Oud" book by AbdulRaman Jabakji. Long ago the guy was also selling tapes with himself playing the lessons (the tapes cannot be found anymore)
A friend of mine has converted them all to audio files.
For me it was (and still) a great learning to have the music sheet along with Jabakji playing them.
I can post one from time to time if you think it is interesting for you guys.
Just let me know.
I am posting (on 2 posts) the music sheet and the mp3 of Lounga Boussalek of Al Tanboury as transcripted and played (and commented) by Jabakji.


Hi Alami, i am interested in getting the Jabakji recordings as I am also using his book. If your friend is interested, I would be willing to purchase a copy of the whole set from him.

Also, i heard that there Jabakji had a set of videos, does your fiends have those?


Thanks,

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[*] posted on 1-8-2007 at 12:20 PM


Thank you verrrrry much Branko.
Everything goes impec.
Both for sound and video files.

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[*] posted on 1-8-2007 at 01:58 PM


Hi Alim,
The friend who did the work of digitizing all the tapes is an oud lover,player and collector and he's undoubtly into "giving" and not "selling", in fact he's the one who drove me into this world of oud .

I undrstand that you are eager to have them all, and I was thinking of asking you for your mail address make an Mp3 CD and send it to you but then it is going to be somehow unfair for the other members as I will not be able to send a CD for everyone.
Why don't we look for a more "democratic" solution where all the guys can benefit from this, and here I need the help of our moderator or Mike's. If Mike is OK to allocate a big amount of space on a new "Learning Materials" Forum or in the "File Sharing" space on the site I am ready to speed up the process of posting the scores.
Anyone guys with a better idea??????
In the meantime, just tell on which score are you now working on so I can post it right now.
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[*] posted on 1-8-2007 at 11:39 PM


Personally, I am not in a hurry. I take even pleasure to await the following episode.

It is also possible to upload everything on a hosting website like Rapidshare or another.

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[*] posted on 1-9-2007 at 07:11 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by ALAMI
Hi Alim,
The friend who did the work of digitizing all the tapes is an oud lover,player and collector and he's undoubtly into "giving" and not "selling", in fact he's the one who drove me into this world of oud .

I undrstand that you are eager to have them all, and I was thinking of asking you for your mail address make an Mp3 CD and send it to you but then it is going to be somehow unfair for the other members as I will not be able to send a CD for everyone.
Why don't we look for a more "democratic" solution where all the guys can benefit from this, and here I need the help of our moderator or Mike's. If Mike is OK to allocate a big amount of space on a new "Learning Materials" Forum or in the "File Sharing" space on the site I am ready to speed up the process of posting the scores.
Anyone guys with a better idea??????
In the meantime, just tell on which score are you now working on so I can post it right now.


Dear ALAMI:

Thanks for your generosity! We can wait to see if Mike wants to include the recording in the learning section. Otherwise I can help to put it on rapidshare or something like that. I am just starting on the book so no real hurry.

Thanks!

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[*] posted on 1-9-2007 at 08:15 PM


This is great ! Please post as much as you can !

this would have a great advantage !

than you very much
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[*] posted on 1-10-2007 at 03:10 AM


Hello again Alami

It would be a fantastic resource for the oud lesson section on this site if possible. Thanks for your generosity.

Cheers

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[*] posted on 1-10-2007 at 11:26 PM


thank you
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[*] posted on 1-20-2007 at 01:39 AM


Alami, you are the fairy godfather of this Forum :applause:
I am most interested in obtaining the scores and mp3 recordings of this book.
Keep in touch :D

Advice for those who wish to download the music : I simply left-click on the mp3 link, then when the music starts to play, I pause, rewind to the beginning and record with the splendid freeware "Audacity", which converts into mp3, Ogg Vorbis or WAV. This latter format takes up more space, but the sound quality is better, and it can be converted into FLAC, which is the absolute best format in terms of sound quality and compression.

Audacity : http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

You also need to download Lame to encode into mp3. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=install&item=lame-mp...

Flac (Free Lossless Audio Codec) : http://flac.sourceforge.net/
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[*] posted on 1-20-2007 at 02:27 AM


Mascun,

The method you use with Audacity is what I used to do.
But I can say that using the cache folder is very easier.

Robert
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