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kuharido
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Oud features
Hey guys ,
I'd like to have a oud built for me sometime in the near future , hopefully . I was wondering if there are any cool nifty little things i can ask
for , nice features =) . here is my choice of woods , please let me know what you think .
Bowl : rosewood
Fingerboard/pegs : ebony
Top : spurce
I will probably visit Mr.shehata if i ever get down to getting this oud . I keep hearing good things about his ouds , the sound , ease of
playability(very important to me as my wrist isnt 100%) .
Thanks !
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Adel
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Hi Kuharido,
That depend in what you want from the oud.
Rosewood and ebony are very loud and sharp sound, if you want a warmer sound your choice will be Paduk or seycamore;
Cedar is a very good choice too, but in Arab countries we do not have good cedar any more so spruce is very good.
Pegbox,Keys are in Ebony that is good too.
If you are going to Cairo, you must visit all oud makers, not only ONE oud maker, I understand people saying this is a great oud maker, but the best
judge is yourself, go and visit oud makers and try their oud and you might find what you are looking for, if you feel the oud , then it's
yours.
Do not look only for big names, look for ouds before anything, do not look down at any oud, play every oud you see and hear with positive thought, an
oud which might look very ugly to your eyes might be the oud which you after.
Make a budget for yourself.
Do not think an oud which is deliverd to your home address is the greatest oud in the world, because if I have the greatest oud in the world I will
not sell it to you.
Good luck,
Adel
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Ronny Andersson
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> Cedar is a very good choice too, but in >Arab countries we do not have good >cedar any more so spruce is very good.
Indeed! The cedar top is what I prefer on classic ouds but where to find nowadays?
I have some soundboards of cedar and it's a tonewood treasure.
Best wishes
Ronny
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kuharido
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About Cedar or spruce , i keep hearing both are good and have their sound . I am not sure .
Also about rosewood and paduk , isn tpaduk a cheaper wood ? I know cheaper doesnt neccessarily mean less quality sound , maybe different , but i
think rosewood is always used on quality instruments no ?
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Adel
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Hi,
Let me say something,
It will be easier for you and me,
if I want to record in a studio, I will not use Rosewood oud, I will use a Paduk or Sycamore oud, because it's warmer.
if I want a loud oud , very clean and clear tone , I will use a Rosewood oud.
Cedar is very warm, but you are not going to find neither in egypt or Lebanon good cedar top,so it's safer to go for spruce.
May be Ronny can help here.
Adel
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Zulkarnain
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Hi Adel
Does the weight count between cedar and spruce. Spruce seems lighter.
Regards
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Zulkarnain
Hi Adel
Does the weight count between cedar and spruce. Spruce seems lighter.
Regards |
Why do you think so?
Best wishes
Ronny
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kuharido
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paduk , rosewood , paduk , rosewood .... i'm confused , i want warmth , but i also want clarity and loudness . Mr.Shehata probably has some ready
made ouds in his shop , so maybe i'll try a paduk and a rosewood and then decide , i understand different aspects come in play , but i'll
have a more general idea .
I am also looking for tiny cool features , nice rosette ideas . Like one of my friends (excellent oud player) had an iraqi oud with and eagle on the
back (the bowl) , very cool .
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Zulkarnain
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Hi Ronny
....as my turkish oud (spruce soundboard) seems to be lighter than my Arabic oud (cedar top)
Salam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Zulkarnain
Hi Ronny
....as my turkish oud (spruce soundboard) seems to be lighter than my Arabic oud (cedar top) |
I think it's the bowl that carry the weight.
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Ronny
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Zulkarnain
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Hi
Both use same wood for the bowl..Im not sure maybe the size..?
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Ronny Andersson
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I have some cedar tops and for me is it impossible to feel any difference between them and spruce. Some low quality ouds have to thick tops and also
bracing.
Best wishes
Ronny
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Zulkarnain
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I agree!
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Adel
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Hi Kuharido,
you said you are going to Egypt.
Play and test all ouds and then buy what you like.
Salamat,
Adel
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kuharido
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Hey Adel , yes hopefully i'll go there around the summer inshallah . I know of a few places , and i'll check Mr.Shehata cause mostly i will
get my oud from there , the other places i know sell cheap ouds for tourists and such . I'd be glad if someone can recommend good places .
It would be so cool if Journyman or John beloved could post a sound snippet , nothing too fancy , just a couple of notes =) . Thanks
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Adel
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OK, very good.
Adel
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kuharido
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I just noticed something . This is on Mike's oud page :
This oud was purchased from Mr. Fathi Amin
Ebony/Rosewood/Sycamore Body with Spruce top
http://www.mikeouds.com/images/fathi1.jpg
different wood used to build the oud ? how would it sound ?
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Adel
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it sound very good
but stay with us to listen to a sycamore oud
Adel
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Hi Kuharido,
Adel asked me to put this video up that we recorded when we met in Egypt. It is an example of the sound of a sycamore oud. He didn't let me put
this on the Video Page of this website before, but lucky you asked all these questions so we could all see his great playing, even though he is not
that impressed with it. Go figure! 
Click here to download the video.
Enjoy!
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Ronny Andersson
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The oud Adel played on is typical for an oud with a bowl made of sycamore. I've played this type of oud with bowl made of the oriental sycamore
- Platanus orientalis.The oud had a very clear bas register that was not so strong as it uses to be and the sound was little bit weaker than an
identical model built of Indian rosewood - palisander. Suitable for chamber music and with a vocalist.This is one of the traditional woods for the oud
making! Our ideals have changed.
Best wishes
Ronny
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LeeVaris
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Sycamore oud
Adel's oud has a very distinctive sound ( perhaps due to his wonderfully mature technique ) Anyone have pictures of the back of this or similar
ouds? Sycamore is a light colored wood right? Is it more typical that sycamore is combined with a darker wood like walnut - alternating light and
dark?
BTW - I'm no expert but Adel's taqsim seems to be particularly well constructed intro- development & close... very, very elegant -
beautiful.
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Yeah, Adel's playing is really great, and seeing him playing in the video brought back great memories of listening to him on our trip.
You're right Lee, the wood is light in color, pale yellow.
This was really a great sounding oud, with really strong bass and balanced tone.
Kuharido, a lot of great woods have been mentioned in this thread. But don't forget about Mahogany and Walnut, they're great woods and yet
relatively inexpensive.
Take care,
mav
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Zulkarnain
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Hi
Mav..u very lucky to exprience those stuff while in Cairo..I dont think I have the same luck when Im there a month from now 
Salam
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david
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 Man Adel seeing you play is insane (no disrespect its a saying
here in the states) please share more videos of your playing with us Adel!!!
 one of your fans,
david.
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Adel
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Thank you evrybody.
This is the cheapest oud which I bought in my life, made from the cheapest wood on the earth, yet it sounds nice.
I know the oud does not look nice but......
I bought this oud and went straight on the wall....
Have fun everybody,
salamat,
Adel
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