Danielo - 11-23-2009 at 03:53 PM
Hello guys,
here is a taqsim in Bayati, kind of egyptian style 
http://www.4shared.com/file/158359532/4805b600/Bayatitaksim.html
I will appreciate your comments (don't refrain from criticizing, I know my progress is slow 
)
Dan
Sazi - 11-23-2009 at 04:05 PM
Hey Danielo, you want criticism?
O.K. - you didn't leave a space between the words Bayati and Taksim
What's to criticise? just keep going! lotta promise there!
fernandraynaud - 11-23-2009 at 08:26 PM
Danielo, I'm not qualified to grade your playing in the Egyptian dimension. Sounds good to me. I love the tone you get and the only thing that comes
to mind is getting more swing from the risha and adding a little drama by changing the rhythm and maybe modulating to a Hijaz type maqam for variety
on one of the phrases?
Danielo - 11-25-2009 at 02:14 AM
Thanks Sazi and Fernand for your nice comments !
About the Egyptian style: well, by no means I pretend to be idiomatic but I started bayati revolving around the tonic (dukah) rather than around the
dominant (nawa) which seems common in Egypt (I think this is more properly called maqam ussaq then)... Also I stole few sentences from Sunbati's
taqsims
Actually I did use bayati shuri that has Hijaz tetrachord but you are right I did not exploit really its emotional potential..
Too many things to think about : plucking correctly, playing in tune, follow the flow of the maqam... At this stage my mind is too busy with all this
for giving tarab
regards,
Dan
ameer - 11-25-2009 at 05:12 PM
To add to what has already been said, there is a slight gap between when your risha first touches a string and when it actually plucks the string to
vibrate. This causes a somewhat awkward picking sound. Try to pluck at the instant you touch the string. Otherwise, good work; keep going and I'm sure
you'll be something to talk about.
Danielo - 12-1-2009 at 07:03 AM
Thanks Ameer for your comments and your very precious advice...
actually I think that my risha is too much inwards, close to the face, so it probably slides on the strings before leaving them free.. that's also
why I'm hitting the pickgard so often.
I'll take care of it!
regards,
Dan
David.B - 12-1-2009 at 09:45 PM
Hello Danielo,
I think the major problem is that you play taksim like a song with a constant movement on the right hand. A taksim should be less mechanic with many
arabesques with the risha... BTW, it's really good and you should keep going
PS
I confirm, the old maqam Dukah is named nowadays Bayyati when you start around the note Nawa and `Ushaq Turki when you start on the note Dukah.
fernandraynaud - 12-2-2009 at 12:05 AM
There is something you're doing that I don't understand the cause of, but it's as if a digital delay were being used, everything is echoed. I guess
it's how you double pick every note. That gets a little monotonous.
Let me throw this out here for consideration: Tarab is number one. Relax the body and focus the mind.
The beauty of the Taqsim concept is that the framework is relatively simple, namely the home maqam and the idea of modulating through related maqamat.
I don't think that rehashing "the great" traditional taqasim and even strictly staying in a given maqam while modulating can possibly be as important
as "giving tarab". Also I'm not sure "should be" is a terribly useful concept when "can be" is available. That means that being tense while playing is
not useful or productive. Screw it! Just pray for beauty.
David.B - 12-2-2009 at 10:20 PM
I agree Tony, when I stick on a taksim there's no emotion, but to me it's necessary to stick and understand before I can fly with my own wings... More
I learn by heart more I feel comfortable when inspiration comes and makes me play my own pieces ! I like this kind of image of a famous jazzman (can't
remember which one) who played at home during 10 years by repeating modes before he played THE perfect sound. I hope for that perfect sound one day,
and rehashing good stuffs can't be bad, we just have to keep in mind this is student work, not inspired music
BTW you pointed out something really important.