Hi Guys,
I am trying to play A Master piece of Vasilak ( or Wasilky...) without sheet..
But I feel that there are many notes that are not 1/4 niether 1/2 notes...
So my question is could they be the comas that are used in Turkish music?...
Coma = 1/9 full tune
Thanks.Jack_Campin - 11-26-2009 at 04:45 PM
What is the piece? Where did you find it?Amos - 11-26-2009 at 06:27 PM
They certainly could be kommas, but without knowing the name of the piece it would be impossible to say. I know that Vasilaki wrote a very famous
Kurdilihicazkar Pesrev...is that what you are working on?David.B - 11-26-2009 at 09:35 PM
Try this link, this is from my own book. Even if it's in French you can understand the Pythagorean system with the schema. Off course it's general and
you might need something specific for your Turkish song, when you go into the details there are many different notes with the same name for the ET
(I've got them in the same book, but it's theory...).
PS
1 tone (A->B) = 2 Limmas and 1 Comma = 9 Commas
1 Limma = 4 Commasmrkmni - 11-27-2009 at 04:15 PM
Salut David,
je comprends bien le francais. Je ne voudrais pas rentrer dans la theorie. je sais que meme dans la musique occidentale c'est compliqué: Pythagorean,
....
par exemple Le Fa montant n'est pas le meme Fa descendants etc c'est du math!....mais (Who cares?)
Il faut avoir les oreilles hyper-sensible.
* désolé pour mes fautes de farancais ( à cause du clavier bs)
They certainly could be kommas, but without knowing the name of the piece it would be impossible to say. I know that Vasilaki wrote a very famous
Kurdilihicazkar Pesrev...is that what you are working on?
A pesrev Kurdilli Hijaz Kar, or for me it is Hijaz kar Kurd... Amos - 11-27-2009 at 09:19 PM
In Vasilaki's Hijaz Kar Kurd Semai, the komma flats are in the 2nd khana, 2nd measure on B, and 2nd khana 5th measure on E, 3rd khana 4th measure
(near the end) on B,...of course this is in Turkish notation so transpose down a perfect 5th to find where your intonation would be if you are playing
in Arabic tuning...hope this helps, and forgive any mistakes! Good luck learning the piece, it's beautiful! David.B - 11-28-2009 at 12:08 AM
In Vasilaki's Hijaz Kar Kurd Semai, the komma flats are in the 2nd khana, 2nd measure on B, and 2nd khana 5th measure on E, 3rd khana 4th measure
(near the end) on B,...of course this is in Turkish notation so transpose down a perfect 5th to find where your intonation would be if you are playing
in Arabic tuning...hope this helps, and forgive any mistakes! Good luck learning the piece, it's beautiful!
Is it Pesrev or Samaii?Amos - 11-29-2009 at 03:01 PM
