Try this website, the translation is so so but you can understand. http://babelfish.yahoo.com/aytayfun - 12-1-2009 at 09:34 AM
Thank you very much for the link. Wonderful.
Thanks also to yahoo.I attached some part of the interview with Cengiz Sarıkuş.
What you know for Emmanouil [Benio]?
[Benios] comes from Italy. I do not know to say to you more [gi]' this. His family is installed in [Folegandro] and from there moves in İstanbul.
In the beginning [Benios] deals with [epiplopoiia]. More concretely it passes varnishes. Then it decides to enter in [organopoiia]. I do not know why,
but the first body that manufactured was guitars. Unfortunately this season in the City the guitar is not widespread and his sales is minimal. Thus
therefore, in the forty [chronia] it decides to manufacture [oytia]. His schoolteachers in the manufacture were the Armenian brothers [Ochanes] and
[Artoyn] [Oyzoynian]. The brothers had a [organopoiio] in underground of palace [Tsiraan]. When it manufactured a [oyti] he showed to [Oyzoynian]. It
did not want it makes [oytia] bad quality. In the course however the brothers [Oyzoynian] been jealous because [Benios] made better [oytia] from them.
That season, from as long as I know [Benios] it lived in [Ortakioy].
How much bodies did make globally [Benios]?
Exist roughly 17.000-18.000 bodies with the label of [Benioy]. But all these bodies were not manufactured by himself. Hi should be round 6000-7000. In
his laboratory 7 or 8 assistants worked. His shop with his laboratory was found in the old road [Netzati] of bey (Necatı Bey) in the Milkman. Now
has become shop with the clothes.
Why we have different labels in his bodies?
Exist three different labels that have the same size. The first label that is [diakosmimeni] with [poylies] becomes for the precise orders, as an
example for the members of family of Sultan. Later exist the simple labels for regular [oytia]. The two different labels write “Emmanouil
[Benioy]”. Here it should I say to you that up to 1900 [Benios] manufactures [oytia] alone. After this date makes him with his assistants, therefore
enters the label “Brothers [Benioy]” [anti] “Emmanouil [Benioy]”. Already it has grown in age.We have therefore three different labels, two
before 1900 only with his name and that is presented afterwards 1900 when it has made his laboratory and writes “Brothers [Benioy]”. Of course
when it dies in 1914, the laboratory passes in his brother Nikos and in his groom Alexandros ([Benios] had a brother) and continues manufacturing
[oytia] that they have the label “Brothers [Benioy]”. And this but also the brother of [Benioy] Nikos they remained and they died in the City
contrary to the nephew of [Benioy], [Biktora] [Dekabala] that went to Thessalonica and continued manufacturing bodies there. These two therefore with
[Biktora] continued the laboratory making [oytia] that as I said to you they had the same label. But the [oytia] these do not already have the same
quality with the precedents. I say to you him from experience because I saw and heard [oytia] with [etiketta] [Benioy] between 1915 and 1917.
How many they were sold then [oytia] his?
In his season the regular [oytia] were sold 1-3 golden pounds. [Oytia] his with wooden decoration 5 golden pounds, and [oytia] with shells or ivory
above 15 golden pounds.
Who are the innovations that did make [Benios] in the manufacture [oytioy]?
[Benios] was first that made in the ship alternation [ntoygias] and filet. Of course this alternation is not decorative. It plays role in the
acoustics of ship. I believe that the addition of filets in [oytia] [Benioy] they play their role in the distribution of sound. Say to you that his
rosette is also the something else in the decoration but also in the form of hole. Also the keys that use are characteristic. These elements were
copied at [koro] by his modern but also later constructors. Particularly [Chamza] [oysta] that learned from [Benio]. He copied his mould from [oytia]
and made almost the himself with [Benioy]. A other that copied him is [oysta] [Oyskoyntar]. And this [oytia] they resemble. Thanks to this copy and
the two made finally very good sales. But also the way with which it put pride behind the lid is something that we use and we today with the same
precisely way. Say to you still that in [oytia] [Benioy] the distance between t o lid and in the strings is smaller than the one that they have modern
[oytia].
You have seen lutes of [Benioy]?
Yes and their labels are the himself: “Emmanouil [Benioy]” or “Brothers [Benioy]”. I saw a lute [diakosmimeno] with shells and I know that it
was sold recently in the abroad. Also [Benios] manufactured policies Lyra and [tampoyr]. It made in deed also a [tampoyr] for famous instrumentalist
[Tzemil] of Bey (Cemil Bey).
Why you consider that [Benios] is the bigger constructor?
Because it made a model that had not made him no one before this. In this model the holes of lid are different from the older constructors. Discovered
alone him one particular acoustics that him you do not find in no other [oyti]: this unique characteristic melancholic Ottoman sound. Know that the
all constructors cannot occupy the sound of [oytion] [Benioy], very simply because he should hears no one many. The current Turkish constructors when
comes in their hands his [oyti], him look at internally but they cannot occupy that it achieved this acoustics. I personally I believe that the system
of aid of lid is very important. I mean the placement and the form that has prides behind the lid. This system discovered him alone him. It is his
personal discovery. I said to you before that when him it went to the Armenian brothers and was not satisfied [espaze]. They was very exigent. And
accomplished him. One of the most important reasons that it accomplished him is that it made a lot of trials. It manufactured him and afterwards him
it processed, it did not interest to sell immediately. It made him, it heard their sound, it asked the opinion of musics that him played and in the
end remained in a model with a unique mould. Even now we see that all [oytia] have come out from the same mould. Does not exist no difference. The
mould is the himself, but in this mould found the acoustics that asked.
That are the moulds today?
They say that certain took him with him Viktor [Dekabalas] when he left from the City. His mould I have seen in the laboratory of constructor [Onik]
[Karimpian]. I personally I do not have his mould, I copied his mould as I could. Did [Benios] die in 1914 and i did come in the City in 1967, that
you want I have a mould (it laughs)?
Is the union [chelidonooyras] between ship and hose his own discovery?
No. They was already used by the Armenian constructors of his season.
Which timbers it used for [oytia] his?
[Sfendami], ebony-tree, wildy [damaskinia] (it used seven different colours), mahogany and other.
If you wanted to classify the constructors of [oytioy] that season with which line you would put them?
Look at, difficult question. For [mena] best of [oytia] it is [Benioy]. With a word she is perfect. Afterwards it is [Arsak] [Kosegian], [Mikirntits]
and [Onik] [Karimpian] and [Kirkor] [Kachia].
This moment does not exist photograph of published [Benioy]. You you have?
Yes. And not only. Unfortunately I cannot give to you him because him I keep for my book. There they will be published for first time.
Can say to us that they were?
[Benios] has photographs where it wears [fesi] and glasses. His person is elongated. I have also photographs of his youth. [Benios] is not very tall.
They say that was impossible but this is not truth. Particularly at the last period of his life. In this a part from his teeth they are absent. But
has a style protective, a style fatherly in his photographs. From what I know it wanted it helps the other whenever it
This part is translated by Yahoo babelfish. Some parts not related to Manol were not attached. Jonathan - 12-2-2009 at 07:21 AM
That's nice, but, it sure would be nice if anybody had another translation.FLIPAX - 12-2-2009 at 02:43 PM
