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100 years old Moroccan oud ( Rmal)

sabbassi - 2-2-2010 at 01:50 PM

This short video about a 100 years old moroccan instrument

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bQpBwEYdqk

a spanish instrument maker is taking the initiative to revive the instrument




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michoud - 2-2-2010 at 02:27 PM

The name of the instrument maker is Carlos Paniagua.
from wich website did you find those photos?
thanks

Sazi - 2-2-2010 at 07:06 PM

It has a sweet sound.

sabbassi - 2-3-2010 at 12:08 AM

The photos were taken by Khalid belhaiba in Tanger where the conference was last week.
a unique instrument

Owain-Hawk - 2-3-2010 at 04:58 AM

What a beautiful sounding peice of craft!

I would do anything to just play this for 5 minutes! :applause:

sabbassi - 2-3-2010 at 05:07 AM

There are only 11 original Rmal oud left over and all stored in Museas in Morocco, Spain, France and the USA

jdowning - 2-3-2010 at 05:53 AM

The visible bracing arrangement of the sound board on the original instrument is interesting. There seems to be only one heavy section brace placed directly underneath the bridge with 2 more braces below and above(?) the sound hole as well as one through the centre of the sound hole - a total of 4 braces!
Does the replica instrument made by Carlos Paniagua follow the same arrangement I wonder? (I guess not as there is no central bar visible through the sound hole).

Also, the fingerboard of the original instrument extends onto the sound board with points or 'stings' - a feature often found on European lutes of the 16/17th C.
Interesting

sabbassi - 2-3-2010 at 06:06 AM

Jdowning:
Your probably right about the reconstruction of the OUD. Khalid Belhaiba also noticed that the new and old one are different in some points. he does not know the reaon.
I will try to come up with moer details\pictures later.

jdowning - 2-3-2010 at 01:06 PM

Luthier Carlos Paniagua seems to be making an historical connection (possibly valid) between the four course Moroccan oud and the European lute as the rosette on his replica features one of the standard designs found on many of the surviving European lutes of the 16th/17th C. Lute rosettes were always 'cut into' the sound board - as is the rosette on this original oud (as well as that on the instrument made by Carlos). Also the design of the original rosette incorporates a six point star motif - again a common feature of early lute rosettes.
It would be very interesting to see more detailed images of the original oud (or other surviving instruments by this maker - as well as other old examples of the Moroccan oud).