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Busy making ouds.. Wanted to share some news and music

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 06:20 PM

Hi all,

I've been very busy lately making ouds. I hope I made same people happy over the last few months.

1 week ago, our friend and mike oud's member dubai244 received his 2 new babies, one Cedar- EI Rosewood and one Engleman Spruce- EI Rosewood. I can't speak for him, but I think I made him really happy. He is such a great person who deserves the best. I had an excellent time with him in Dubai. Both were 57 cms scale length.

2 other happy people were Ghassan Alyousif again, since he owns an Engleman-EI Rosewood oud I made since November. His new baby is a Cedar- EI Rosewood 57 cms scale. Then there is the very talented 15 years old Yousif Abbas from Iraq who got an Engleman- EI Rosewood 57 cms scale oud. Both got their ouds 2 days ago.

Ghassan and Yousef just sent me a video .. and I wanted to share it with you. I hope you all like it..

Clip 1- Ghassan and Yousef

Clip 2 - Ghassan and Yousef

I can easily tell just by seeing them.. They are more than happy ..

So much for looking for something that makes me feel content with my life.. I've never been more happy.

Hazem

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 06:50 PM

I don't want to forget Hazem Shaheen.. Who received his oud earlier.

His oud is a 7 strings oud, Cedar- EI Rosewood, 57 cms scale.. With a special Hazem sound, since I had to study Hazem's work very well to come up with a bracing design that will fulfill his ambitions. He is such a great person, if only we had more Hazem Shaheens in the world.

This is Hazem on his oud.

Hazem Shaheen - Things I miss

Hazem Shaheen - Longa "Teenager"

Saad Jawad

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 06:54 PM

Then, there is Saad Mohammed Jawad from Iraq. A magnificent player and a teacher in Bahrain Music School.

His oud is also 57 cms scale. Sitka Spruce - EI Rosewood.

Saad Jawad - Running Child By Targan

Naseer Shamma

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 06:57 PM

Of course.. Naseer Shamma, but that's old news already.

Unfortunately he is hooked to the Cedar - EI Rosewood oud.. Although I made him an Engleman - EI Rosewood and Sitka - EI Rosewood ouds but apparently they're hidden at home as of now.

Naseer Shamma - One Destiny

Ashraf Awadh

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 07:00 PM

From Sudan.. The gentle Ashraf Awadh who is a graduate of Beit Aloud in Cairo and he teaches there too ..

His oud is a 57 cms scale oud, Cedar - Syrian Walnut oud.

Here he is with Omar, the Kanun Player from Iraq..

Ashraf Awadh and Omar

There are 10 others from all over the Arab world.. All of them are excellent oud players.. But I just don't have videos of them yet.. Some of them are camera shy and I might not be able share their playing with you .. but I am trying my best.


Dina Abdulhamid

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 07:07 PM

I shouldn't forget the sweet Dina..

Here she is on her Cedar-EI Rosewood 57 scale oud..

Dina Abdulhamid - Morning Dew

And together with Ghassan and his Engleman - EI Rosewood.

Ghassan and Dina - Za'farany Alley

Ghassan and Dina - Halab

Ghassan on his Engleman - EI Rosewood
Ghassan@Home

And me

Alioud - 4-16-2010 at 07:23 PM

I almost missed the greatest player of all time.. Myself :xtreme:.. loool

Anyway.. Here is one Oud I stringed last night, and I am giving it a go .. Trying to be a Bashir and sucking at it.
This is an Engleman - EI Rosewood oud with Adirondack Spruce Bracing.. I was trying to get to the special Jameel Bashir Oud sound utilizing Adirondack and special bracing pattern.. I think I nailed it.. But as you can clearly see, I am no Bashir :(

Lousy Me

Bravo

ExtreamTarab - 4-16-2010 at 11:38 PM

allah allah ya Ali...These are all amazing instruments, stunning work. I have always been a fan of your work ;)
Thank you for posting these videos...wonderful
I want one too :D

Sazi - 4-16-2010 at 11:47 PM

Hey he took my lines! :rolleyes: True-ly exceptional oud, Ali! I like your playing too.

(And thanks for the Ziryab articles also, most informative and helpful.)

Luttgutt - 4-17-2010 at 06:09 AM

Impressive Alioud!

Beautiful ouds, and grate playing!! :applause:

Yes I think you nailed it well!

Jamil Bashir is one of the most difficult players to imitate.
Bravo

p.s. I have a question if I may: Why 57cm skale? What are the advantages? I have the feeling that you have a very good reason for that. Did you find a magic formula? :)

Keep the good work

Alioud - 4-17-2010 at 06:48 AM

ExtremeTarab and Sazi, you've both been very interested in my work. Thank you so much for following and thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and praises. I truly appreciate it.

Luttgutt, thank you so much for your comment and I appreciate what you said but I have like 100 years to go to reach the precision and cleanliness of Jameel Bashir's risha technique. He was simply impeccable.

Why 57 cms scale.. Ok, the Iraqi school tends to like the accentuation of treble sounds and the ease of reach and playability for higher octaves on the same string. 58.5 cms seems ok to my giant hand, but there has been a major increase in the 57 cms scale length since Naseer Shamma started making changes in the Iraqi/Arabic music scene. Higher scale length utilizing the same strings gives higher tension, but with the availability of custom made strings that should not be a problem, but alas, people who study at Beit Aloud with Naseer Shamma and like his playing came to believe in his dogmas blindly.

I prefer longer scales because it gives better response at the bass registers, not too long though because anything longer than 58.5 cms becomes less playable at higher positions, and the trebles suffer tremendously.

I change my bracing patterns to match the scale length .. so, it is not a magic formula with 57 cms scale length.. it's more of a player's comfort.

Sent you a U2U just now..

Luttgutt - 4-17-2010 at 07:19 AM

Thank you for your fast answer!

Quote: Originally posted by Alioud  


the precision and cleanliness of Jameel Bashir's risha technique. He was simply impeccable.



Totally agree with you! That is why only very few people have tried to emitate him!

I am sending you a mail

Regards

suz_i_dil - 4-21-2010 at 10:28 AM

Congratulation Dr Ali, what an achievement to see your work being played by such players...hope to become one, in a much more modest way of playing!

by the way, Jameel Bashir was using fixed bridge oud, isn't it? Did you meant to keep the tone buth with much more brightness/volume...or I don't know, I miss adjectives for characterizing a sound.

regards

Alioud Fixed Bridge ouds

ExtreamTarab - 4-23-2010 at 01:16 PM

Hey Dr. Ali,

Seems like you have been busier than we thought !!!
I have found these 2 videos of your new ouds...fixed bridge this time ;) Hope you don't mind me posting them here ;)

Alioud - Nahat Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmAfML_bGQ&feature=channel

Alioud - Manol Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq4I9fZrevY&feature=channel

I'd like to thank fadel for keeping us updated with your work through his youtube channel...thank you fadel and please try to get longer videos for us :D

We'll be waiting for more details about these ouds...

Regards,
Ibrahim

fadel - 4-23-2010 at 03:24 PM

hi

ExtreamTarab

no proplem my friend

thank

alfaraby - 4-24-2010 at 02:53 PM

loooooool , Dr. Ali !

I have just had the chance to see them all, and got really shocked ....
I most liked Abbas's & Ashraf's , plus the Nahat style fixed bridge, or were they the players who actually impressed me ? :)

As to 57 cm scale , I have to disagree ! I have a George Hayek's (Aleppo) 1923 oud with 62 cm scale string, which is the easiest oud you may ever play. It depends on the tuning and the strings you'd choose. Once you choose Pyramid Lute strings for example, they would respond on higher notes better than the "ordinary" kind of strings set.

I myself, as you have heard this hundreds of times, am in love with the fixed bridge type, spruce soundboard, 61.5 cm scale oud which sounds almost like bass-oud; but this a matter of taste.
Therefor I shall be waiting to see & hear the coming "baby" you'd give him birth

Hurray Dr. Ali

Yours truly
Alfaraby