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bedrosian oud

alfaraby - 5-1-2010 at 02:23 PM

Bassel Dear

The photos are of a very low quality, there's no sound sample, no attached info whatsoever, no price indicated ! So how would you expect us to relate to your post ?

The only clear thing is that the photo on the inner sticker is of the late graet luthier Sempat Derpetrossian, the father of another great luthier : Garabett Derpetrossian !

Excuse me !

Yours
Alfaraby

Faladel - 5-2-2010 at 12:40 AM

Dear Abu Tayseer:

This oud is make by SUNBAT Derbetrossian.
Bassel : please post high quality photos and sound ...aaand price Please.

alfaraby - 5-2-2010 at 09:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Faladel  
This oud is make by SUNBAT Derbetrossian..

Ahlan Doc.
Did you mean to correct my writing of the luthier's name, or what ?

His full right name, as he used to write it, is Sempat Derpetrossian, but people made it Sunbat Bedrossian as this is easier to pronounce. I'm looking at his clear sticker of my 1942 masterpiece !

Bassel : I may dare and price this oud for 1500 - 1700 $ max. & please excuse me for doing this. I wonder what does Adel or Nizar have to say about that !

Yours indeed
Alfaraby

IMG_0172 (Medium).jpg - 52kB

Faladel - 5-2-2010 at 10:47 AM

Dear Alfarabi:

All DER.Bedrossian family use in Arabic and in english Name like this label.
Yuors indeed

DerB_label Garabed Der Bedrossian made in 1976.jpg - 52kB

alfaraby - 5-2-2010 at 10:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BASSEL OUD  
if that interests you ,you are welcome so not, please keep your estimate for you

I will Bassel, no problem ! This shall be the last one ever !
It's therefore said "Al enaa bema feeh yandah"
This was not an estimation. This is the price, not even a dime more !

Alfaraby

Jonathan - 5-2-2010 at 04:17 PM



Actually, Faladel, my own Sempat DerBedrossian has a label that is almost identical to the Sempat posted by Bassel. And the name Sempat used is not Derpetrossian, but rather DerBedrossian (the use of the "b' rather than the "p" is dialectical). You can see it as such on Alfarabys label.

The entire DerBedrossian family did not use the same label. Even Garabed DerBedrossian did not always use the same label. Here are some examples: http://varjouds.com/berossian.htm

I don't like to get too worked up over the exact name, because it is only an attempt to translate a foreign name into English or Arabic. Here, an Armenian name is being put into a language other than Armenian--not always an easy task. Heck, on the Garbed DerBedrossian, you can see that his first name actually evolved from Karapet into Garabed (and yes, this is the exact same person).

I am going to try to update my website later this week, and include some of Sempats labels.

It is always nice to see one of Sempat's ouds, Bassel, and I hope you can find time to post larger pictures, and a sound file. My own Sempat has a very nice, rich, Nahat-ish tone.