Farido in Jerusalem

Hi guys here is a link of a personal version of Farido I played in a Jerusalem cafe last summer, the first 30 seconds of my improvisation are not on the video unfortunately, tell me what you think about that anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9yHf1ylRmk

Enjoy!
Benjamin

Hey I really liked that, you've got a really strong risha technique going there my friend, and the oud sounds awesome! I look forward to hearing more from you

Is that a k&k twin spot classic I see? What is it going through?

Quote: Originally posted by Benjamin

Hi guys here is a link of a personal version of Farido I played in a Jerusalem cafe last summer, the first 30 seconds of my improvisation are not on the video unfortunately, tell me what you think about that anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9yHf1ylRmk Enjoy! Benjamin

Quote: Originally posted by Greg

Quote: Originally posted by Benjamin   Hi guys here is a link of a personal version of Farido I played in a Jerusalem cafe last summer, the first 30 seconds of my improvisation are not on the video unfortunately, tell me what you think about that anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9yHf1ylRmk Enjoy! Benjamin I loved it Benjamin. You did Farido proud. Thanks very much for sharing your considerable talent with us. Regards, Greg

I don't think Farid would be pround to listen to his piece with 2 or 3 brutal, dry and non justified breakpoints

Quote: Originally posted by Reda Aouad

Alloushé can we ever listen to your playing? With no offense, it seems you attack everyone on this forum, don't like any style, and search the tiniest errors to talk about. Can we listen to how you can make us satisfied (moshba3in) as you say? I would love to!

Please don't misunderstand me you or anybody else. name them (the attacked people) and they should be many persons according to what you say ,if you can't, stop to consume adrenaline and relax.

If i don't like your music or the music of 'x' or 'y' is not to my taste in a piece, i mention it, i don't and can't polish here and here, it is very natural for me and it is not an attack for me to anybody and it should not disturb.

Take it easy, this is my opinion as a listener and not as a player so what you said has no sense at all and it discredits you on my opinion. I am not pretending to give satisfaction or being able to do so to you or to somebody else, and it is not my goal at least on the forum, i am just expressing and being myself as a listener. Competition is not in my culture, i like to save my energy.

To return to the actual post, the 1:51 and 2:21 of Benjamin were too frustrating to my ears and taste on my opinion after being quite good during his takssim , that i mentioned these remarks and it is up to the concerned person to answer me or not on what happened (sometimes we loose the control when we play and we end in something else for example), that's all. So stay cool and relax Rida

Quote: Originally posted by Reda Aouad

Well.. words like BRUTAL are offending. At least as much as I understand English. Anyway.. I won't be discussing that in this thread and won't turn it into a debate. I apologize, Benjamin, for what just happened. I shouldn't be writing this in your post and will not be writing here anymore. Nevertheless, your recording is great, I appreciate your playing and technique and I really enjoyed listening to it. And I think everyone needs a little encouragement so we can all keep up the progress and give our best to the oud community. Thanks for sharing ! And I hope we all share with each other and enrich this forum, not just be passive members.

for brutal: read well the phrase, it depends how biased is your explanation to it, it can mean : sudden, brusque, unexpected (even if i am not english expert lol), at least you learnt something google it if you have suspections.

I am happy Rida that you have understood that you made a mistake by misunderstanding me and opening a non-sense debate. Thank you very much to stay on a cool relaxed wavelength now and in the future and remember: it is just a forum, not easy to not see in real the persons, there is real life too
cheers!
vive la muzika

DaveH, and 'who' has doubt: abrupt is a synonym of brutal ( google it, i don't like to say that but you insisted so go and check), so there is no offense..maybe the difference in culture..
Benjamin, try to take my words on the most positive ones existing in the dictionnary

Thank you for your confessions that confirm my thoughts..but I am not here analysing your sequence note by note, cetainly there is mistakes, maybe more than 3 or 4,.. and it is natural but i was talking about something else and not about mistakes.. i am just giving my opinion as a listener and not as a player or as a professor, as i said before i listened and i was enjoying till these moment where it was too brutal the change, and the kafla did not make satisfaction to my ears, that's all.
My opinion is based upon the original music of Farid and my musical taste when i was listening to your version.
Now if the question is : what do i think about the oud technique in the clip: of course, it is clear that you have a great mastery of the instrument and quite sure it is not strange for you.

Beautifully played Benjamin, loved the finishing
thanks for sharing and keep them coming man

Alloushé, you are new here, so forgive me, but we have had some quite stressful moments of late here, and people are a little jumpy, though normally this forum is very harmonious. So please be tactful. You really can't say things like "Farid wouldn't have been proud", that's not useful or constructive, is it?

But I hope I understand what you wanted to say. There are times when nobody here wants to express critical thoughts on someone's playing for fear of hurting their feelings, and as a result it's like a class where the teacher and everybody praises every student, we have this problem in the United States, they call it "political correctness", that EVERYBODY must be praised all the time, and as a result students don't learn very well. People want to know what they are doing that pleases, but also what they should improve. And with different cultures, I think we are all curious how another culture reacts to our experiments. The key word is respect.

So, if your intent is positive, the trick is probably being very technical in criticism and suggestions, specifically explaining what you think should be different, exactly in what way, and why, that way we all learn from the example, as long as we are never ever making the person feel small. In this instance, I certainly couldn't follow what exactly you thought Benjamin should be doing differently, and I'm probably not the only one on whom your points were lost. Then maybe we can know that the comments are not meaningless, and not be afraid of honestly explaining what we think and feel.

We are all learning and we should help each other be better players, with more feeling, more knowledge to show connection to the past, and better technique and new ideas for the future, because that's how our beloved oud and music can shine for more people all over this planet!

Right?

Alloushé, we are waiting for your recording of Min Ghir Lih. We will not be easy on you when we will judge your playing... you better play well..

Quote: Originally posted by mrkmni

Alloushé, we are waiting for your recording of Min Ghir Lih. We will not be easy on you when we will judge your playing... you better play well..

I can understand the feeling of some members waiting to judge my work ) the critics will be hard, hands friction preparation from now , the eyes are red, very red to externalize the energy accumulated due to my straight sometimes 'dry' opinion. If you want to accelarate the romping, just buy me a recorder

Benjamin, I feel you put your heart and soul into this performance, great risha technique-
tell me, how do you manage to keep so much concentration on your playing with that pretty girl next to you? thanks for sharing it with us my friend. regards, MW