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em.20 - 9-29-2011 at 05:07 AM

Is the buzzing really a wanted feature? Because I have a similar buzzing but it disturbs me!

WITHOUT REMARKS

farukturunz - 9-29-2011 at 07:51 AM

Is the buzzing really a wanted feature? Because I have a similar buzzing but it disturbs me!

Listen to the videos below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_Y49QKmpQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxaoSGxBqg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CkWOHitRUw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzrmUFWMVOQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69hjuVv5dzs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMK4gxpuU7o&feature=related

Jassim - 9-29-2011 at 01:37 PM

i like the sound of it realy i dont like it clear!!! lettler buzzing well give nice feeling to the player its show that its life thing in your habd not like piano or orge

Mr turunz my new oud i want it pure turkish sound

fadel - 9-29-2011 at 04:59 PM

hi

u r a master

salam

farukturunz - 10-2-2011 at 12:30 AM

i like the sound of it realy i dont like it clear!!! lettler buzzing well give nice feeling to the player its show that its life thing in your habd not like piano or orge

Mr turunz my new oud i want it pure turkish sound

Hello Jassim, you are a great musician. I appreciate your taste of sound.

Regards,
Faruk Türünz

em.20 - 10-2-2011 at 04:33 AM

Is the buzzing really a wanted feature? Because I have a similar buzzing but it disturbs me!

Listen to the videos below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_Y49QKmpQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxaoSGxBqg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CkWOHitRUw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzrmUFWMVOQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69hjuVv5dzs&feature=related

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMK4gxpuU7o&feature=related

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Merhaba Ustam,

that buzzing is different from mine. I guess I have a problem with the fingerboard.

Ararat66 - 10-2-2011 at 10:58 AM

I think you need to be a bit more specific when you talk of buzzing so people can give you more precise advice. Some ouds like mine have a natural buzziness inherent in their sound which can be toned down or enhanced depending on how I use the risha (almost impossible to explain how).

But when people talk of buzzing as an undesirable sound it is probably a different thing altogether and may be to do with lots of things (loose brace, cracks, fingerboard problems, action, loose bridge etc etc).

If you described the specific problem then maybe Usta Faruk may give you an idea as to what this may be. I think the way you phrased it initially suggested his ouds have a problem - but I think you are saying your oud is faulty and you'd like a bit of advice.

I hope this is helpful.

Leon

em.20 - 10-2-2011 at 12:24 PM

No, I didn't want to say that his ouds have problems. Later I've written that my buzzing is different from that what he means and that it sounds like my fingerboard has a problem.

I opened a topic with my problem, also with a sample:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=12340

But I think this is not the right place to discuss because this topic belongs to Faruk Türünz and his ouds and not to my problems.

farukturunz - 10-4-2011 at 12:50 AM

No, I didn't want to say that his ouds have problems. Later I've written that my buzzing is different from that what he means and that it sounds like my fingerboard has a problem.

em.20, You are absolutely right. Your oud's fingerboard must have a problem. It is a common case due to the technique applied to level the fingerboards. Hand controlled leveling with a sandpaper block needs patience and accuracy. I applied this technique for more tahn 24 years. Recently we designed and made a leveling machine to level our ouds' fingerboards.

farukturunz - 10-4-2011 at 12:51 AM

Mehran - 10-4-2011 at 01:35 AM

Are those tins of fasuliye I see on top of the levelling plane?

)

oudistcamp - 10-4-2011 at 06:30 AM

That is so great!
Does the leveling machine have a variable speed control?

farukturunz - 10-4-2011 at 06:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mehran

Are those tins of fasuliye I see on top of the levelling plane?

)

Hi Mehran! How come you recognized those tins of "Barbunya
Pilakisi". You must be familiar with those tins.

We filled them with cement. The oud has to be pushed towards the leveling plane with a constant pressure :rolleyes:

farukturunz - 10-4-2011 at 08:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by oudistcamp

That is so great!
Does the leveling machine have a variable speed control?

No, the leveling machine works in a constant speed.
oudistcamp, the electric motor is a reduced speed model and speed of rotation is around 1 and a half tour per second.
Regards,

Faruk Türünz

farukturunz - 10-4-2011 at 09:57 AM

hi

u r a master

salam

Salam dear Fadel! Thank you for your comment.

You know I also have a Facebook account but being a member of these Oud forums I show respect to its aim and abstain from occupying its ground with irrelevant topics. Besides, having an unconditioned attachment to the Oud instrument and to those oud lovers I only talk about oud related issues here.

Best regards to all

SamirCanada - 10-4-2011 at 10:02 AM

Nice machine Faruk Usta.

Obviously its completely custom made. It has to be long engouh and extremely flat. I really admire your work, the time to properly manufacture precision machinery like this to perform a single specific task is impressive.

Bravo.

Jassim - 10-4-2011 at 10:11 AM

i just can say
YOU ARE THE BEST!!!

farukturunz - 10-4-2011 at 10:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SamirCanada

Nice machine Faruk Usta.

Obviously its completely custom made. It has to be long engouh and extremely flat. I really admire your work, the time to properly manufacture precision machinery like this to perform a single specific task is impressive.

Bravo.

Thank you Samir for your glowing evaluation. Yes, it is completely custom made and extremely flat. The tray under the sand paper was made of granit and is extremely flat. We can level on it the extended fingerboards of the ouds of which the string length is 61,5cm.
My work partner Suat Çetincan designed and made this machine last year.

Best regards

ultragroove - 10-4-2011 at 01:13 PM

The "Da Vinci's" of oud building... :bowdown:

Jassim - 10-8-2011 at 09:29 AM

my friend
well you make reduced price model ouds out of mahogany wood?

fadel - 10-8-2011 at 10:26 AM

hi

thank thank for this reduced

it is too good to player

1 for my when I com to work shop ( yurdal )

salam

farukturunz - 10-9-2011 at 10:34 AM

hi

thank thank for this reduced

it is too good to player

1 for my when I com to work shop ( yurdal )

salam

Hi Fadel !

OK I will keep one for you until you come to attend Yurdal's next workshop.

Take care

fadel - 10-9-2011 at 12:59 PM

hi

thank my friend

araaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabic sound

salam

fadel - 10-10-2011 at 01:29 PM

hi

if u can ff cc gg dd aa F

thank

athos - 10-10-2011 at 10:19 PM

Hi Mr Turunz,

I was wondering what it would cost to get one of your

fantastic ouds shipped to Melbourne, Australia?

All the best!

farukturunz - 10-11-2011 at 02:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by athos

Hi Mr Turunz,

I was wondering what it would cost to get one of your

fantastic ouds shipped to Melbourne, Australia?

All the best!

Hi Athos,

Shipping fee via ARAMEX is US$ 287 + safe packaking and insurance is $90.-
TOTAL: $ 377.-

Best regards

farukturunz - 10-11-2011 at 05:10 AM

my friend
well you make reduced price model ouds out of mahogany wood?

Yes, we are going to make REDUCED PRICE POINT OUDS out of MAHOGANY soon :applause:

We are also planning to make this model out of two alternating wood: MAHOGANY+PADOUK :applause:

We will announce these ouds seperately when we make them :bounce:

farukturunz - 10-11-2011 at 07:43 AM

hi

if u can ff cc gg dd aa F

thank

Hi fadel!

Unfortunatelly (ff cc gg dd aa F) tuning requires a third bracing design and thickness of the soundboard besides the two existing patterns (Turkish and Arabian)
If some demands/orders accumulate for that type of tuning ouds, we may think about it.

Regards

em.20 - 10-11-2011 at 09:12 AM

"This price point covers Turkish and Arabic tuning ouds"

That point is interesting. If you change the tuning, do you only change it by using other strings or do you make any modifications to the oud? As I heard, an arabic oud for example couldn't handle the tension of turkish tuning.

Jassim - 10-11-2011 at 09:37 AM

my friend
well you make reduced price model ouds out of mahogany wood?

Yes, we are going to make REDUCED PRICE POINT OUDS out of MAHOGANY soon :applause:

We are also planning to make this model out of two alternating wood: MAHOGANY+PADOUK :applause:

We will announce these ouds seperately when we make them :bounce:

GREAT!!!!!

farukturunz - 10-11-2011 at 10:14 AM

"This price point covers Turkish and Arabic tuning ouds"

That point is interesting. If you change the tuning, do you only change it by using other strings or do you make any modifications to the oud? As I heard, an arabic oud for example couldn't handle the tension of turkish tuning.

The soundboards of Turkish and Arabian ouds are designed differently. The bracing pattern and frequencies of the braces are differently arranged for these two different kind of ouds.

Regards

Kind regards

Edward Powell - 10-11-2011 at 10:42 AM

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This last one with Hazzem is a bit extreme though isn't it??? [but somehow I quite like it

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Edward Powell - 10-11-2011 at 10:51 AM

My work partner Suat Çetincan designed and made this machine last year.

Best regards

Suat abi does it again!!!! OMG!!!! :bounce:

farukturunz - 10-12-2011 at 04:51 AM

[rquote] Suat abi does it again!!!! OMG!!!! :bounce:

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"Suat abi" always does it !!! :applause:

Edward Powell - 10-12-2011 at 04:56 AM

[rquote]
"Suat abi" always does it !!! :applause:

you guys are an unbeatable team!

Edward Powell - 10-13-2011 at 12:16 AM

Faruk Usta.... now that we have your attention, I have had one question in my mind for a long time since I was a guest at your workshop. . . why don't you put a slight 'radius' into your soundboards??

I am guessing that the reason is that you have a special system (and an incredible machine!) for trimming the edges of the bowl which in effect serve a similar function as a radius, but still I am curious what your thinking is on this - since it is something we never discussed together.... THANKS!

As far as my undeerstanding goes, a slight radius in the SB is an excellent guarantee against SB cracking due to humidity changes... I had two ouds by Belhaiba (Casablanca) which just cracked like crazy in the SB... and I don't know any other luthier's who put in SB radius... But I never heard of any of your SBs cracking - or actually I never heard of any Turkish ouds SBs cracking at all... I wonder why this is true, but Belhaiba's cracked so badly??

farukturunz - 10-13-2011 at 01:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Edward Powell

Faruk Usta.... now that we have your attention, I have had one question in my mind for a long time since I was a guest at your workshop. . . why don't you put a slight 'radius' into your soundboards??

I am guessing that the reason is that you have a special system (and an incredible machine!) for trimming the edges of the bowl which in effect serve a similar function as a radius, but still I am curious what your thinking is on this - since it is something we never discussed together.... THANKS!
As far as my undeerstanding goes, a slight radius in the SB is an excellent guarantee against SB cracking due to humidity changes... I had two ouds by Belhaiba (Casablanca) which just cracked like crazy in the SB... and I don't know any other luthier's who put in SB radius... But I never heard of any of your SBs cracking - or actually I never heard of any Turkish ouds SBs cracking at all... I wonder why this is true, but Belhaiba's cracked so badly??

Eddi, thank you for your question. The crack on the SB is usually occurs due to the unaged state of the wood. As we have Spruce forests in the western part of Black See region to find Spruce wood is not a big issue (you know this and our spruce stock) wheras it is a problem in most Arab countries and Moroc. We have the chance to purchase logs and keep them in stock to get dry well. Well dried spruce does not progress cracks.

Edward Powell - 10-13-2011 at 01:29 AM

Also, I guess that these days much wood is dried by quick artificial means - and I guess this renders most commercially available woods vulnerable to cracking?

fadel - 10-13-2011 at 08:21 AM

hi

I hav 2 oud ( cc gg dd aa gg C )

so I waint ( ff cc gg dd cc F )

if u can my friend

thank

fadel - 10-13-2011 at 05:32 PM

hi

3 oud ( ff cc gg dd cc F )

for my friend

thank

Jassim - 10-13-2011 at 10:07 PM

yestarday i have play on two new oud from the master turunz
and they where GREAT!!!!!

Edward Powell - 10-14-2011 at 01:22 AM

yestarday i have play on two new oud from the master turunz
and they where GREAT!!!!!

they ALWAYS are!

farukturunz - 10-17-2011 at 01:01 AM