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Sunbati taqsims music scores

naddad - 11-23-2011 at 06:05 AM

Where can I find scores of his taqsims (Rast, Kurd, Hijaz, Nahawand, Bayati)?

I'm planning on improving my sight reading skills and I'm guessing it would be fun and amazing to play one of his taqsims.

Thanks

Danielo - 11-23-2011 at 07:10 AM

Here :

http://gradworks.umi.com/14/33/1433667.html

Unfortunately not free... unless you have access to a University Library

Dan

charlie oud - 11-23-2011 at 07:38 AM

Hey Dan,
I never knew these transcriptions existed, do you, or anyone on the forum know how good/accurate they are?. If they are 'as played' by Sunbati then I think they are worth the $37 for pdf download. I may get them if I can get a bit more info on the quality of them. Some notated taqsims are transcribed poorly, simplified or inaccurate. One guess's they would need to be spot on for a university thesis, but if they are spot on then why I they not well known transcriptions and published openly, after all Sunbati is a legend!!!.

Brian Prunka - 11-23-2011 at 08:24 AM

These taqasim were done by Kareem Roustom for his graduate work. They seem quite well done to me. The approach is rather academic (as one would expect), but certainly worthwhile.

I asked Kareem why he hasn't published them widely, but he didn't seem interested in the prospect.

fernandraynaud - 11-23-2011 at 08:40 PM

Maybe we can convince him? I would pay $10 for the PDF, but not $37. If a good handful agree to do the same (and there is no overriding copyright, and educational use cannot be invoked), he can authorize the forum to charge via paypal for download. He might realize that if he doesn't do something like this, ultimately these transcriptions will find their way into de facto public domain, without his perhaps worthwhile analysis, and no lunch money.

juju - 3-19-2014 at 07:59 AM

Anyone had news about the work of Kareem Roustom "a study of 6 improvisations on the ud" ?
I didn't find anything on the internet ...
best.

Brian Prunka - 3-19-2014 at 07:44 PM

It's still available from ProQuest:
http://dissexpress.umi.com/dxweb/results.html?QryTxt=&By=kareem...

alim - 3-20-2014 at 07:05 PM

I have seen this thesis. It has a complete note-for-note transcription of the 6 taqasim, along with an analysis of the maqam modulations. Each taqsim is notated in 5-8 pages. These are also chapters on the life of A-Sunbati. I think the quality of the transcriptions are excellent, and a good way to follow the taqsim if you want to learn them. However as sight reading exercises, they might be useful for the melodic aspect, but not for rhythmical part.

Good luck,

Ali-

sandoval - 3-21-2014 at 02:40 PM

Are these transcriptions from the "taqasim album?

juju - 3-21-2014 at 03:43 PM

I imagine those transcriptions are from "taqasim album" ... it seems to be the only one solo album available from Sunbati...

I contacted the author of the thesis, he told me that the thesis will be available from his own website this spring.


Jaffa Road - 3-26-2014 at 04:05 PM

I just had a really quick look at this thesis and it looks incredibly informative, I think the transcriptions and analysis look really good (after just a quick look).

I t appears that looking at the transcriptions (and analysis) while listening to the recording and/or looking while try to play along could be very educational.

The $37 for the PDF seems reasonable to me, it would be a lot more if it was put out as a book by an academic publishing house.

BTW- Proquest stuff is FREE for those who are students or professors or instructors at universities whose library subscribes to pro quest you log in to pro quest via the website of your university library with the bar code on your
student or faculty card.