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Marcus - 2-15-2012 at 02:51 AM

Hi fellow oudies :wavey:

Here is a youtube clip of unusual oud music.

Enjoy!!

Marcus

Marcus - 2-15-2012 at 02:54 AM

1more;-))

tune

fernandraynaud - 2-15-2012 at 05:36 PM

And let's not forget ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QODwolafs1g&feature=related

adamcrossley - 2-25-2012 at 05:04 PM

This is fantastic hahaha, you rarely get to see such fusion of musical cultures, and isn't it great when you do!

luan - 2-25-2012 at 06:14 PM

The first one was awful to me, the one fernand posted was better

Giorgioud - 2-26-2012 at 02:47 PM

Marcus & Fernand,
thank you! Great bloody music! More of it pleeeeze!
Giorgio

OudBlues

Marcus - 2-27-2012 at 12:02 AM

Hi Giorgioud :wavey:

these guys where my first experience with the oud used in western music.

Hope you`ll enjoy it!!

Cheers,

Marcus

fernandraynaud - 2-27-2012 at 12:40 AM

My 1st oud encounter in 1964 was Sandy Bull, who was no
great oudist but seemed to have a soul sense of the instrument:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox1p1IU3KGc

and his room-mate, Hamza El Din, who showed him the oud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRTpZfV_hHc

I rather think Hamza El Din completely made up the cool
"Nubian folk music" he presented.

Giorgioud - 3-10-2012 at 06:15 AM

Fernandraynaud,
then again, thanks for the tip regarding Sandy Bull. I have checked him out and, oh my God, I am speechless! What a genius! He really knew what music's all about, which is pushing boundaries and inventing new languages. He was a fantastic intrumentalist and improviser and he knew how to mix genres in such a tasteful manner, glued together by his inimitable nous. I am irked I have let all these years pass by without getting to listen to him. I'll have to make up for the time lost.
Thanks again!
Giorgio

luan - 3-10-2012 at 09:51 PM

Speed caravan is the way to go!

Giorgioud - 4-5-2012 at 02:36 PM

Marcus,
thanks for the tip regarding Oudblues....very, very inspirational....I have been trying myself to mix oud and blues for ages, but nothing to write home about so far......so I think I'll copy them for a while

).....

fernandraynaud - 4-6-2012 at 01:38 AM

@Giorgioud, glad you like Sandy Bull. He was reclusive, never "made it", never seemed to care. Too bad he's gone now, he might have found "world music" audiences today. Hamza El Din passed on just a few years ago too in a hospital in Berkeley, at least he had a "public". I wonder who has his oud with the ivory pegs. Anybody know?

BTW, thanks for the compliment on my Youtube clips. Not TOO many hits on "oud harpsichord";-) I'll have to put up something more recent. Thanks.

BBTW for playing in non traditional styles the Sukar 212 just keeps amazing me. It was always like that, but as it ages it's gotten stronger. My model 14 loves deep maqam music, and the 212 just rings out on major scales and chords.

Giorgioud - 4-6-2012 at 03:01 AM

Fernand,
my pleasure. If you don't mind, I preferred to talk about your vids on the forum rather than sending you a U2U (as it was originally my intention) because I want other people to hear what great music you make.
About Sandy Bull....yeah, he never had an audience and he was quite reclusive. But, as I read on his biography, a decade of heroin addiction might have had something to do with it.......shame.....it's amazing how many great musicians that terrible substance thwarts the talent of..........
No comparison, in terms of audience, between Sandy Bull and Hamza Al-Din: the latter was a well-known, internationally acclaimed oud star. Although I must say, some recordings he made, clearly financed by Westerners, lack his better judgement, as they feature horrible eighties "sondscape-y" synths, even drum machines. Whoever put the money for the record must have forced him to arrange the music in such a way, because "that's the way to go if you wanna sell in the West"......terrible......
Whoever has got his oud has something historical and he/she better not sell it......
I'd like to have the oud of this great musician, on the other hand: Ahmed Ismail "Oudeydi" Hussein. He's a well-known oudist amongst the thriving Somali community in London UK. I'd love him to teach me the oud and I'd like to contact him somehow. It's a shame, because I lived for a long time in inner-city London amongst one of the biggest concentrations of Somalis in the UK capital....and then I moved to another town altogether and started playing the oud

Bah!
http://youtu.be/OTd9hJhYN-s
http://youtu.be/pOFsXPfAVh0

I am getting big time into the Somali oudism, it employs pentatonics (which I can understand) like most Central African music and it's very funky
http://youtu.be/SlLsJAkFK8E

This is very good too, just ignore the English guy.......
http://youtu.be/f6F0t2Lwehg

Hope you like it!
Giorgio

fernandraynaud - 4-6-2012 at 01:16 PM

Oh yes "the English guy". Check this out, that (and related) was on top of my favorites a couple of years ago. So many wonders!

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=z535lSnDdHo

I love the call-response technique in his playing

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=AGApMXw4buo

And speaking of simple pentatonic

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=SsHErd5Sd8U

I hear echoes of West African guitar riffs in some of the Somali and Sudanese pop, that's sweet.
The world playeth together! E.g. these guys join Marocco, Mali and Madagascar instruments so well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rsw4MKAo4M

norumba - 6-21-2012 at 01:01 PM

here's a little nontraditional something we do:
http://youtu.be/uEp1q1a0BRo

Giorgioud - 7-13-2012 at 06:51 AM

Thanks Fernand,
you're right! The world's a big caulderon. And so it should be. Sudanese music is beautiful. I hope I will visit East Africa one day. The West is becoming duller and sicker by the minute. Thanks for the links, a lot to learn from them.

Norumba,
thanks for the link you posted, very cool music, great oudism there, which country do you usually gig?