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Recordings From 1932 Conference in Cairo

freya - 2-18-2013 at 04:12 PM

I never knew there were recordings made at this conference but apparently 320 3 minute sides were recorded.

See: http://bolingo69.blogspot.fr/2011/09/conference-on-arabic-music-in-...

for details.

Cheers

spartan - 2-19-2013 at 03:01 AM

thats great !
thanks so much

David.B - 3-19-2013 at 04:11 AM

So great!

If like me you're waiting for the file, be patient and listen to -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dsUKd27DlE



David.B - 3-19-2013 at 04:33 AM

Everything is included : booklet and .mp3 (.flac sounds better)! :applause:

ultragroove - 3-19-2013 at 05:52 AM

Just wow...
Thanks for that marvelous find!

David.B - 3-19-2013 at 07:07 AM

I must admit that I would like to listen to this tape too -> http://bolingo.org/audio/arab/cairo32/CEDEJ_K7.html

Rambaldi47 - 3-20-2013 at 07:40 AM

Wow! Thanks for sharing this. And I'd also love to hear the tape David.B
has linked to. :)

ALAMI - 3-20-2013 at 11:53 AM

I have these recordings in MP3 format.
If someone have a place to post them I can upload them to him or to that place.

I don't believe there are any copyright on them, anyways their purpose was to be a reference for the future. The reference recordings were mostly recorded with the voice of Sheikh Darwish Al Hariri who was known for not having a beautiful voice but an accurate memory and just voice.

David.B - 3-20-2013 at 12:22 PM

I'm happy to read you ALAMI :)

It possible to download everything from the first link : Music 320 ▼ R for .mp3 and Music flac ▼ R for .flac

When you wrote, I was reading this thread -> http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=8798&pa...

It seems you have many recordings from the Nahda. I'm wondering if I should not take the plunge and work on this period all brings me back to it.
What about you? Do you use these recordings as raw material, or only as a source of inspiration?

ALAMI - 3-20-2013 at 01:11 PM

I think that "Al Nahda" was somehow the apogée of Arabic music. "Al Wasla" and then "Al Dawr".
Al Wasla which could last between half an hour to an hour is the music form that is the most faithful to the spirit of Al Maqam in the meaning of 'a place you STAY in" (Aqam, Youqim, Mouqim). It had the right balance between the musician and the singer: a regular Wasla has a sama3i, a Bashraf's, layali, mawal, mouwashah even a taqtouqa all around one maqam.
Al Dawr, even if it puts the singer in the center of all, it also kept the place for another great art: the improvisation and modulation. The composer used to compose the main parts but the rest was left to the inspiration of the singer.

When I have to take a long drive through the chaotic Lebanese roads and traffic jams, a Wasla of Mary Joubran makes my life easier. My ears or my brain learned to filter the bad quality of those recordings and I find myself most of the times going to the Wasla form (when I am not listening to a pure oud recording).
I don't know why, it just sounds right.

I have a big library with some rare recordings that I owe to 2 friends ( and their fathers) I will never be able to listen to all of it in my lifetime.
Unfortunately the FTP I was using to post the files in the thread you referred is dead.

David.B - 3-21-2013 at 12:21 AM

Thanks for your comments about Al Wasla and Al Dawr.

I'm listening to -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jgu5cXbXLI
You're so right, emotion flows in spite of the poor audio quality.

I was thinking about using the work by Mikhâil Meshâkah and the CD "Music from Lebanon and the Levant of the Arab Renaissance" as raw materials. I want to work on these "model-melodies" and use them as reminders. I'm a little afraid of being out of touch with nowadays music, but after all ...

Then I'll come to Beirut to hear your record library for the inspiration ;)

More seriously, it might be useful to create a conversation thread about the Nahda period!?

David.B - 5-6-2013 at 10:17 AM

Hello everyone,

I took sometime to listen to Disc 1 track 07 "Vocal improvisation on a mawwâl ... in the bayyâtî mode ..."

At 00:02 I hear a dûlâb in Rast (iqa' Maqsûm), to me the mawwâl is in this same maqâm.

At 02:40 I hear a taqtûqa in Saba (iqa' Mâlfûf) with the note sîkâh in finalis. The note aug is used instead of 'agam.

What do you think?