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Oud arbi (Algeria)

Jono Oud N.Z - 5-15-2013 at 12:50 PM

Ryadh - 5-20-2013 at 05:05 AM

The first four photos (from the top) are not an Oud Arbi (which by the way is more a Tunisian instrument), but those are an instrument called "Kuitra" (a kind of long oud with four strings) very popular in the Algerian "Andalus" music. Here is a video of a kuitra player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq0HJTG-g6g

Best,
Ryadh,

Jono Oud N.Z - 5-20-2013 at 04:45 PM

Hi.:)

Thanks, my mistake.
I have heard of the kuitra but do not know much about it.
Keen to learn more about it.
Good video!

Are the bottom two instruments called 'oud arbi'?
Also is that Salim Fergani (bottom right)?
I really like his albums.

Danielo - 5-20-2013 at 11:06 PM

Hi,

yes they are. Oud arbi is played in eastern Algeria (Constantine) and Tunisia. In this region, Arabo-Andalusian music is called Maluf. Salim Fergani, who is one of the most famous representatives of the Constantine school, is indeed on your picture.

Kwitra is used in western Algeria (Algiers, Tlemcen), where Arabo-Andalusian is usually called Nuba.

Dan
Quote: Originally posted by Jono Oud N.Z  
Hi.:)


Are the bottom two instruments called 'oud arbi'?
Also is that Salim Fergani (bottom right)?
I really like his albums.

Jono Oud N.Z - 5-21-2013 at 02:48 PM

Hi.

That clarifies it, thank you:).

I really like the Maluf from Constantine, it sounds like what what you could imagine to be played in part of (one of the three schools) Andalusia in the Middle Ages in my opinion.

I have Ruth Davis' book on the Maluf of Tunisia. this is a really good book

Ryadh - 5-22-2013 at 05:07 AM

Here is a very nice piece of a musical form called "mahdjouz" played by Salim Fergani on an Oud Arbi:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3hon0_salim-fergani-mahjouz-r-hao...

That's one of my favorite Fergani's musical interpretations

Best,
Ryadh,

Danielo - 5-22-2013 at 06:46 AM

Nice piece !

It is interesting that the oud playing of Salim Fergani is much more under modern sharqui influence compared to musicians of the previous generation, e.g. Raymond Leyris :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-iraBYioAA


Dan

Jono Oud N.Z - 5-22-2013 at 02:45 PM

I really like both of the pieces:applause:

Good point about the modern sharqui influence, I had not noticed this before.


I know there was a strong Syrian/Egyptian influence on Tunisian music since Ali al-Darwish and Sami al-Shawwa taught the Tunisians for a while helping Rodolphe d'Erlanger to preserve Tunisian maluf.
The works of Khmayyis Tarnan are a fusion of Tunisian and eastern styles which has led to modern Tunisian music (Ruth Davis).

http://1.static.e-corpus.org/download/notice_file/1923386/corpusKhm...

Ryadh - 5-23-2013 at 09:07 AM

Thanks for sharing, I agree about the sharqui influence, but maybe it's because of the "style" of this particular piece, since it's an istikhbar followed by a mahdjouz

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Ryadh,