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I don´t see any oud! or am I missing something else here??

Hi.

The story is most probably referring to an oud although it just says 'lutanist' in my translation.
I thought the picture on the Word doc was appropriate with the guy on the left being about to be hit with something, perhaps if the picture is related he had put the oud down for his punishment.
(The picture may not be related at all but is funny though).
Here is a Timurid miniature with an oud from the Period.
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I don´t know why people on pictures from that time all look like chines. Arabs don´t have slit-eyes

Quote: Originally posted by muhssin

I don´t know why people on pictures from that time all look like chines. Arabs don´t have slit-eyes

The Timurid court of Sultan Huseyn Mirza Bayqara (1438-1506) in Herat became the center for maqam court music after Abbasid Baghdad.
Herati court music was the model for the early court music of the Ottoman's.
The Timurid's spread to India in the 1500's and were called the Mughal's (Persian for the Mongol's).

Many musicians from Tabriz were taken to Istanbul in the 1500's and were called the 'Ajamlar and 'Hindlar' - the 'Persians' and the 'Indians'.

1. 'Safi al-Din was the most prominent court musician at the court of the last Abbasid Caliph Al-Mustasim. He was present during the destruction of Baghdad by the mongol armies of Hulagu Khan in 1258. Thanks to Safi al-Din’s reputation as a great musician, Hulagu, after hearing his performances on the oud, spared him and his family and possessions. Safi al-Din then served Hulagu and was paid an income of 10,000 pieces of gold. He became the music tutor of the two sons of the Mongol vizier Shams al-Din Juwani'.

2. 'The most important theorist, musician and composer of the Timurid period was Abdul-Qadir Maraghi. Maraghi was born in Maragha in Azerbaijan around the middle of the 14th century. Maraghi became a court minstrel of the Jalayirid Sultan al-Husayn in the late 14th century. The Jalayirid’s were based in Iraq and Western Persia; they only ruled for half a century and were conquered by the Timurid’s. Timur Khan conquered Baghdad in 1393 and Adbul-Qadir Maraghi was taken with Timur to Samarkand, the Timurid capital. Later Maraghi served Timur’s son Miranshah in Tabriz'.

(from my Timurid court chapter I am busy writing).

Also the oud player on the last miniature may possibly be Ghulam i-Shadi, who Demetrie Cantemir refers to as 'Ghulam the Arabian'. He does looks Arab to me compared to the others, who seem to be of various nationality's.

The courts of the Timurid's were multicultural places, there were Mongols, Turks, Persians, Arabs, Jews and Indians (etc).

There was a strong Chinese influence on 'Persian' painting as well.
This partly explains the eyes.

More Timurid period miniatures

Quote: Originally posted by Jono Oud N.Z

Hi. The story is most probably referring to an oud although it just says 'lutanist' in my translation. I thought the picture on the Word doc was appropriate with the guy on the left being about to be hit with something, perhaps if the picture is related he had put the oud down for his punishment. (The picture may not be related at all but is funny though). Here is a Timurid miniature with an oud from the Period.

Hey.

It could well be, lol.

By the way, the updates on your site are excellent.

Quote: Originally posted by Jono Oud N.Z

Hey. It could well be, lol. By the way, the updates on your site are excellent.