spyblaster - 10-9-2013 at 05:17 AM
Hi
I guess this guy is using standard arabic tuning. can anyone explain how is he playing this?
the melody is played on dd and gg courses and it's accompanied by repeated A note which is placed on gg course. this is technically impossible.
playing the melody on AA and dd courses while playing A note repeatedly requires giant hand and is technically impossible too, so he must a trick.
any hint is appreciated.
it's a nice piece anyway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9KvjYIfFyE
Jody Stecher - 10-9-2013 at 06:18 AM
If you listen for the difference between the sound of an open string and a fingered string, the secret to the "magic trick" is revealed. I would say
this instrument — which is perhaps not an oud — has one double course tuned to D and another course (single or double, I'm not sure) tuned to A.
As for the other strings I can't say how they are tuned or how many there are. This might be a lavta, an oud, or something else, but I think it is not
an oud in standard Arab tuning.
Microber - 10-9-2013 at 06:48 AM
This not an oud.
On the CD, this track follows a track with a taqsim called "Taksim Laouto".
I know nothing about laouto-lauta (or...) but I think that Ross Daly uses unusual tuning and a fortiori the musicians playing with him.
BTW a nice tune following a nice taqsim.
Here at 0:13:16
Robert
ultragroove - 10-9-2013 at 09:08 AM
Thanks for the find!
If that instrument is a Laouto then this explains a lot:
"The interval from one pair to the next is tuned in fifths (Cc-Gg-Dd-aa). The Laouto has a re-entrant tuning, Gg tuned a fourth lower than Cc.
The two primary contemporary variants of the laouto, one somewhat smaller than the other, are to be found on mainland Greece and on the island of
Crete. The larger sized instrument (wider body) is played mainly on the island of Crete and tends to be tuned differently ( Gg - Dd - Aa - ee)..."
(from wikipedia)
Greetings
spyblaster - 10-9-2013 at 09:40 AM
Thanks guys
I though Laouto is Oud's name in some other lang. this explains why i never could play this without changing the tuning or scale.
oudistcamp - 10-9-2013 at 11:48 AM
On behalf of my teacher who cant log in right now, the instrument is a lavta tuned DADA low to high.
When played on an oud, a different position is needed.
The player/composer is Socrates Sinopoulos.
spyblaster - 10-9-2013 at 01:20 PM
yes it makes sense. i can play this on the scale starting from C instead of D. melody on AA and dd courses 3rd position and accompanied by repeated G
however it doesn't sound as well as the track coz my C note is not an open string. but on Laouta (Lavta, whatever) they have both a and d open strings
apparently and it sounds great.
someone should try this on a Cello...