doroq - 12-4-2013 at 08:13 AM
54 cm and 48cm scale.....
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Greg - 12-4-2013 at 01:24 PM
Thanks Doroq, very interesting.
What can you tell us about these instruments? What are they called? What part of the world are they from?
Regards,
Greg
majnuunNavid - 12-4-2013 at 03:13 PM
I would love to have one of these. Looks like a fretless Oudolin. (mandolin +Oud)
doroq - 12-4-2013 at 06:57 PM
Thanks for the kind words, fellas... I call them d'ouds. I needed to make something that enabled me to get into the "sonic galaxy" of the oud/lavta,
so without any patterns, and just basic dimensions, I just started building.. different sizes, different shapes...either 8 or 10 strings. I don't play
strictly Arabic music, but I'm very influenced by eastern, and middle-eastern music/culture/art.
I bought an oud some years ago from Lark in the AM, and it was a piece of junk. I'm very pleased with what I've built, as far a timbre, and
playability. Also, I dig small instruments> After many years of hauling a pedal steel guitar, and amp around, now it's a d'oud, a violin, and a
lap steel.... good to go>>
I live in Boulder, CO, but I am soon returning to my hometown, Chicago.
majnuunNavid - 12-4-2013 at 07:38 PM
do you have a website or any other contact info? I would be interested in staying in touch. Also, I would love to hear these instruments.
jdowning - 12-7-2013 at 11:23 AM
This is an interesting project.
As far as I know there is no historical precedent for soprano ouds (although the Turkish 'girl' size ouds have a string length of 54 cm) - unlike the
European lute where tiny soprano lutes - string lengths from about 275 mm to 330 mm - were in vogue during the 17th and 18th C. These might be worth
examining as models for possible oud applications?
Last year, forum member theodoropoulos was interested in making one of these instruments - discussed on this thread:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=13471#pid92...
The so called 'Baroque mandolinos' were gut strung with four, five or six double courses (tuned a fourth apart) with either fixed or tied frets. Fixed
bridge not floating bridge. They were played like a lute (plucked with finger tips) until about the last quarter of the 18th C when quill plectrums
(rishas) became the norm.
The sound of the early mandolino is surprisingly loud with good projection and dynamic range in the hands of a virtuoso player.
Here to follow, for information, is an example - Sonata Prima by early 17th C Venetian composer Dario Castello performed by the 'Duo La Corda' -
Katsia Prakopchyk on Baroque mandolino with continuo support on Baroque guitar provided by Jan Skryhan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_VzU8yYz6o
Good luck with your project.
Dr. Oud - 1-15-2014 at 07:22 AM
These are similar to a type of oud is known as Nesh-et-Kar in Arabic cultures, Lavta in Turkey and Barbat in Persian music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbat_(lute)
http://www.mbw.ir/index.php/detailen.php?id=219&page=8
The neck/body proportion is different from the oud where the oud's neck is 1/3 the string length, making the neck/body joint a 4th step. The
nesh-et-ker neck/body joint is a 5th step. I have one made in 1924 in Damascus, Syria by Hanna Nahhat, string length 541mm. I made the Barbat with the
map if Iran pickguard. Hossein Behroozinia is holding his Barbat made by the Mohammadi Brothers in Iran.
https://www.facebook.com/Behroozinia
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