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Floating Bridge Oudmakers

nedal - 12-16-2014 at 01:47 PM

Hey Guys,
I'm looking to buy a floating-bridge oud. as far as i know there ist a few Oud-maker who make such ouds. which do you recommend. i'm living in Germany so it would be nice if you can tell me to if shipping possible too.

My Regards

John Erlich - 12-16-2014 at 10:45 PM

Hi Nedal,

I don't know who I would recommend, since I'm personally not crazy about the sound of the Bashir-type floating bridge ouds, but I know both Maurice Shehata/Al-Aseel and Nazih Ghadban both make that type of instrument: http://www.mauriceoudshop.com/aseel-1959/ and http://www.oudnazihghadban.com/oud_details.php?&page=20 I have a standard model Shehata.

Good luck!

Marcus - 12-16-2014 at 10:52 PM

Hi Nedal,:wavey:
the forummember Matthias from Badenweiler makes floating bridge ouds.
Here is the link to his homepage

Cheers,

Marcus

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teslim - 12-17-2014 at 08:47 AM

Dimitris Rapakousios makes beautiful floating bridge ouds ..dimitrisouds,com..... i have a great one from him.. many different styles and he is wonderful to deal with...

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teslim - 12-17-2014 at 09:02 AM

i forgot to mention ali nisidir, a great luthier in istanbul who lived and made instruments in jordan for many years....again another hardworking and talented oudmaker...you can find him on Facebook under udmaker as i think his website is no longer working... his floating bridge ouds are loud and powerful. there is a video on youtube of mehmet bitmez playing one..best of luck.

phil - 12-17-2014 at 10:58 AM

Hi,
I have a Bashir type oud 57cm made by Amro Mostafa (Cairo) which I absolutely love the sound of.

Mourad El Turky, makes floating bridge models too. also Cairo
They are both on FB

Phil

suz_i_dil - 12-17-2014 at 01:30 PM

There are a lot

Khalid Belhaiba (Morocco) Majid Atik (Morocco) Mathias Wagner (Germany) Huosain Sabsaby (Syria) Ali Nisadir (Turkey) Faruk Turunz (Turkey) Veysel Sarikus (Turkey) Bashir Abu Ala (Palestine) Fadi Matta (Lebanon) Nazih Ghadban (Lebanon) Amro Mustafa (Egypt) Azad Omar (Netherlands) Yarub Fadhel (Belgium) Faik Fadhel (Irak) Foad Jihad (Emirates ?) Fawzi Munshid (Irak)

And so and so... Of course this list is not limitative but at least some makers that brought good feedbacks.

Who told there are not a lot ? :)

Take your time and good luck in your research


Matthias - 12-17-2014 at 03:09 PM

Hello Nedal,

here are two videolinks played on two different floating bridge models from me:

1) Raed Koshaba plays on a copy of his mohammed Fadhel model, the model of Munir Bashir:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9i9uvzpSoQ

2) Mohammed Abozekry plays on my own floating bridge model:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0QteZToEc4

I have 1 instrument of the Fadhel model in my workshop and furthermore another bigger Fadhel floating bridge model. You are welcome to visit me and try the instruments. The model under 1 was played by all members of Munir's group "Al Bayrak" and is still played by several well known oudists like Ali Hassan, Sami Nasseem and Marcel Khalife. I am actually working on a order of this model.

The pictures below show my own model.

Best regards

Matthias

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Matthias - 12-19-2014 at 01:29 PM

Here are some pictures of the Mohammed Fadel model played in the video by Raed Koshaba.


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Jason - 12-20-2014 at 09:55 AM

I have a Ghadban floating bridge oud. The craftsmanship is top notch and it sounds amazing.

Oud Freak - 1-1-2015 at 11:12 PM

Fadi Matta (Lebanon) makes awesome floating bridge ouds:

http://www.fadimatta.com

Oud Freak - 1-1-2015 at 11:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Jason  
I have a Ghadban floating bridge oud. The craftsmanship is top notch and it sounds amazing.


Hey Jason,

Would you show us pics and sound of this oud?

hans - 1-2-2015 at 02:17 AM

I have an 8 string ramazan calay:bowdown::bowdown:

majnuunNavid - 1-2-2015 at 02:57 PM

I just got a Faik Mohamad Fadel floating bridge Oud and I love the sound. Though, I'm amazed at how quiet it is compared to my Dimitris Rapakousious Oud. Actually, comparing my Dimitris Oud to other Ouds I've tried like Sukar and Ghadban, and Persian Barbats, my Dimitris Oud is a BEAST. However my floating bridge one is comparable to other Arabic Ouds in volume.

That being said, I wonder if all floating bridge Ouds are quieter in volume than fixed bridge Ouds? Nevertheless, I am in love with the sound of this Oud... I've always wanted a floating bridge Oud. My Dimitris Oud has a lot of overtones, which I have grown to tolerate, but this floating bridge Oud has a pretty quick decay, so I only hear the note I am playing. But the volume is lower.

Another question, my floating bridge Oud is about 58cm or 58.5cm string length. Is a shorter scale normal for floating bridge Ouds to compensate for the strings being tied beyond the bridge?

Brian Prunka - 5-13-2015 at 10:38 AM

Yes, the whole intention of the floating bridge design is greater volume and power. However, to really take advantage of this you need higher tension strings.

If you use the lower tension strings typical of a classic fixed-bridge, you will not get the increased volume possible from a floating bridge, though you will get different tonal qualities than a fixed bridge (generally more overtones).

Depending on the design, an oud that is made for higher tension strings may actually be quieter with low tension strings than an oud that was designed for low tension. It's about using the instrument as it was designed.


Regarding the OP's question, I would recommend Khalid Belhaiba in Morocco. He only lists fixed-bridge ouds on his site but I have played his floating bridge ouds and they are excellent.

majnuunNavid - 5-13-2015 at 07:13 PM

I am using La Bella high ff tuning. I do need a new set of strings though.

This floating bridge Oud I bought needs a bit of work. There is a minor separation between the soundboard and bowl on the side that rest on your leg. I need to have it repaired, so that might contribute to the lack of volume. This should tell you something about buying an Oud form ebay. lol.

The treble strings volume really stick out.

But my Dimitris Oud is seriously loud. Loudest Oud I've ever heard in person or played. I should see if there's an online decibel app so I can do a comparison.

Brian Prunka - 5-14-2015 at 06:31 AM

OP = original poster, the person whose question started the thread here.