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Mohmad Fadel oud authentic, plz help

zakiya_alali - 8-23-2015 at 05:07 AM

hi,

Can you plz help if the oud below is Mohmad Fadel authentic

Appreciate your help


Thanks in advance


[file]36402[/file] [file]36398[/file] [file]36400[/file] [file]36396[/file]

Brian Prunka - 8-23-2015 at 06:29 AM

I'd say this appears authentic.

zakiya_alali - 8-23-2015 at 12:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Brian Prunka  
I'd say this appears authentic.


Thanks Brian for ur reply, any more replies!

Brian Prunka - 8-23-2015 at 12:10 PM

A closeup of the fingerboard in good lighting would help also.

Alfaraby - 8-23-2015 at 01:47 PM

Mohamnad Fadel Jr. thinks it looks iriginal, though he said he should check the SB very closely in order to give his final conclusion.

Yours indeed
Alfaraby

Microber - 8-23-2015 at 10:39 PM

@Alfaraby, who is Mohammad Fadel Jr ? A son of Mohammad Fadel Father ? Which one ? I know there is Yaroub and Faik, another one ?

Robert

Alfaraby - 8-23-2015 at 11:44 PM

M'd fadel Jr. is the son of Fayeq M'd Fadel, the eldest son of the great master. Fayeq continued making ouds in Baghdad after his father's death in 2002, and the grandson Mohammad Jr. joined in afterwards.
Fayeq's brothers: Omar, Faleh and Ya'arob are also well known oud makers, Omar in Baghdad, Faleh: first in UAE then in Moldova & Ya'arob: first in Tunisia and later in Belgium.
Here's a very famous report about the master, where Omar speaks about the family:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyxgdxCTQO4

See also this thread : http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=15156#pid10...
where Mustafa (taftaf here) another son of Fayeq's related to the phone numbers in 1977 and that his grand-pa moved to a new workshop in the 1980.
The phone number here is 5 digits and the serial number of the oud is 4260, that matches other fadel's from that period.

Here's another 1975 oud : http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=13354#pid91...
that seemed a fake compared with this one.

Another oud from 1985 matches what Mustafa has indicated about the new shop and the new phone numbers. The serial number is also an indicator. It is 5380 in 1985 while it was 4260 in 1975. 112 oud a year ? Nothing much in an active workshop with the sons helping.
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/files.php?pid=90261&aid=23...

I thought this might help.
Thank you

Yours indeed
Alfaraby

TAFTAF - 8-26-2015 at 01:13 PM

:)

TAFTAF - 8-26-2015 at 01:19 PM

عفوا استاذ زكية علي ممكن نعرف من حضرتكم؟ لان هاي مو اول مرة تروج لعود لجدي محمد فاضل و تشكك بانه اصلي او لا و ممكن نفيدك مباشرة و نعطيك عناوين ورشة احد ابناء محمد فاضل و تتفحص العود مباشرة هناك
ارجو الرد السريع لاننا بصدد تقصي كل من يشوه هذا الارث و التفاهم جاري على قدم وساق بين الوزارات المعنية و الجمعيات و الدائرة القانونية في وزارة الثقافة
و شكرا

TAFTAF - 8-26-2015 at 01:32 PM

Dear zakiya_alali ,

This is not the first time you post a piece of My late Grand PA Mohammed Fadel OUD (1910 - 2002)and ask if it is genuine or not, if you gine us more details on you we will give you address to one of our shops of Mohammed fadel sons and they will observe on the spot and give you the right answer.
and since the Ministry of culture and we are in the process of investigation any fake mohamed Fadel OUD, that might ruin this heritage or effect our reputation
and for Mr. Al Faraby , thanks for the information and your interest and that all four of Mohamed Fadel sons (UNCLES) are alive and working and ready to give any advice to any OUD lover if Maker or player
and sorry for late answer
Regards to all

zakiya_alali - 8-29-2015 at 12:35 PM

Dear Mustafa,
First of all I have a great respect for you grandfather the master of all times
Mohmad fadel, i have contacted ur uncle Omar and he confirmed the oud
Is a genioune mohmad fadel oud. I also like to share opinions of the members of this website as there are many of thems expers. I visited ur father faik couple of times in his House hay awor area in baghdad and his son mohmad is very good friend of mine.

The next time I visit dubai I will contact u Mustafa

Best Regards