A few more photos would be nice. But this seller has a lot of good reviews from folks who have purchased other vintage items from him, so this just
might be the real deal. It looks like it to me, but I'm no expert on Bedrossian. Good luck to the buyer.ameer - 9-10-2016 at 10:13 AM
...and the high bid skyrockets from $499 to $910. This is what happens when you publicize a great buy.Don Z - 9-10-2016 at 10:38 AM
Sorry about that Greg - 9-13-2016 at 01:47 AM
Winning bid US$1,325.00.
I hope someone from here got it.Don Z - 9-13-2016 at 06:18 AM
SamirCanada - 9-13-2016 at 06:36 AM
it needs some significant work by the looks of it. Don Z - 9-13-2016 at 06:48 AM
Seems that way. Jody Stecher - 9-13-2016 at 08:12 AM
Does anyone have an explanation for the single treble course and and the funny little one string bridge etc?
I have 2 ideas, neither one of them 100% convincing.
I seem to remember that there was a discussion here a few years back about the same or similar setup on another oud (or was it this one?) but I can
find no trace of it.Don Z - 9-13-2016 at 08:37 AM
I am curious about that myself.Jody Stecher - 9-13-2016 at 08:55 AM
And what are those little animals chasing each other on the little rosettes? Lions? Squirrels? SamirCanada - 9-13-2016 at 09:26 AM
it's a Squirlion.... a bird species that are unfortunately extinct now...Jody Stecher - 9-13-2016 at 09:39 AM
it's a Squirlion.... a bird species that are unfortunately extinct now...
Of course. I should have realized.
And that funny little bridge and the little nail in the bowl: that must be the remnants of a squirelion trap! Don Z - 9-13-2016 at 10:00 AM
The trap must have captured the rosette..Don Z - 9-13-2016 at 12:40 PM
Should I attempt to string it up?suz_i_dil - 9-14-2016 at 07:32 AM
I'm always surprised of how high can get the bids just for the reason the oud is old...regardless of its state or of a try.
Actually I begin to think good ouds are structurally not made to get very old. But maybe just a personnel taste because the more I play the more I
like reactive sounding instrument,which means fragile soundboard . This one for example may turn very mute
one may told me its difficult to find traditional Arabic oudmakers nowadays, this I disagree. I think we have really nice Syrian, Palestinian,
Lebanese,Egyptian makersDon Z - 9-15-2016 at 08:07 AM
Here are some more pics. I love th fingerboard Nd hope it can stay. The top is loose and there are some cracks on both top and back.Don Z - 9-15-2016 at 10:51 AM
How do I post images? Anyone?Brian Prunka - 9-15-2016 at 10:56 AM
There are instructions on the main page. Don Z - 9-15-2016 at 11:06 AM
get rid of everything before https and an image is viewable. I found a total of 2 photos. The photo of the fingerboard if had included the nut might
help solve the mystery of the single treble course. We could see the slots and see if there are any single string slots. The second slot reveals
another mystery I hadn't noticed before. The pick guard goes right over a decorative inlay. Who would do that and why?Don Z - 9-15-2016 at 12:09 PM
The nut looks like it’s for 7 courses, both outer courses being single . 12 strings all together. the middle 5 courses seem to be cut as pairs.
The slot at the far right looks like it might be wide enough for a bass course such as the old way it was sometimes done in Turkey and also by Munir
Bashir etc.Don Z - 9-15-2016 at 02:24 PM
That single bridge saddle is situated beyond the normal bridge and seemingly off of the fingerboard.Jody Stecher - 9-15-2016 at 02:43 PM
That single bridge saddle is situated beyond the normal bridge and seemingly off of the fingerboard.
yes I know. That's what I was asking about a day or two ago.
for a "bam" bass string that was not fingered it would make maybe a little bit of sense. For a treble string I don't know.
I'm examining the evidence and trying to make sense of it. At first the nut looks like it has 12 notches spaced roughly evenly apart. but then a
closer look suggests that there are 5 inner courses intended to be pairs. And then there is a single course notch on either side. It could be the
result of several sequential setups for 5 or 6 courses and of course I don't know it it's the original nut.Don Z - 9-15-2016 at 03:10 PM
The bridge is drilled for 11 strings; 5 courses and a bass string.Don Z - 10-18-2016 at 01:39 PM
Since the main rosette is missing should I leave it as is, or have a new one made?journeyman - 10-24-2016 at 04:44 AM
The ebay add said it was made by Garabed der Bedrossian but I don't see his name on the label. Was it made by his father, Sumbat (Sempet)? Sempet ouds
had beautiful rosettes; Garabed's ouds generally did not. Regardless, an oud with no rosette just doesn't look right to me. Sempet's ouds are much
more highly regarded than Garabed's and this looks much more refined than any of the Garabed der Bedrossian ouds that I've seen. If it is one of
Garabed's, it must be a very early one; perhaps made under the tutelage of his father. I have an early one from the 1960's but it is not as nice as
this one.
The bridge extension for that upper string must surely be a modification. My opinion......have it restored to original; it might be a great oud. Don Z - 10-24-2016 at 07:18 AM
John Vergara has it and says it's Garabed. He is doing the restoration work. I too think a new rosette would complete it.Don Z - 10-24-2016 at 09:26 AM
