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Early Ottoman Music Book

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-4-2017 at 03:50 PM

Hi everyone:).

I am about release my first volume of notations from Ali Ufki, Demetrie Cantemir and the qadim (old-"ancient") repertoire.
The notation is concert pitch and is set out like 'the Maqam Anthology' -the pieces are organised by maqam and suit 'wasla' type performances.
This book will be available soon for anyone interested.

Have a good day.

bulerias1981 - 7-4-2017 at 05:04 PM

Definitely interested. I'll take two copies, one for home and one for my shop :)

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-6-2017 at 12:11 PM

Awesome! - thanks:).
Will send the link soon, just finishing off a couple of details -contents..

Have a good day:)

John Erlich - 7-6-2017 at 09:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Jono Oud N.Z  
Awesome! - thanks:).
Will send the link soon, just finishing off a couple of details -contents..

Have a good day:)


If you are selling the book, I would love to advertise it on my "Turkish Music for Non-Turks" Facebook page.

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-10-2017 at 12:32 AM

Thanks!!:)
Much appreciated!

Have a great day.

Will update on progress soon.

Jack_Campin - 7-15-2017 at 02:56 AM

I would certainly be interested, and I think I know other people who would be. Keep us informed.

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-19-2017 at 12:41 PM
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I would certainly be interested, and I think I know other people who would be. Keep us informed.


Will do:).
Thanks!

Microber - 7-20-2017 at 01:24 AM

:applause: Can't wait !

dario - 7-20-2017 at 12:34 PM

Looking forward to this! Got a few friends who'll be interested too :bounce:

Alan-TX - 7-21-2017 at 07:26 AM

I want a copy!

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-21-2017 at 01:00 PM

Hey and thank you all:)!
Very encouraging words.

I am just looking for someone to distribute it, trying a few people, just waiting on their replies.

Don Z - 7-28-2017 at 03:58 AM

I woul love a copy!

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-30-2017 at 04:47 PM

I am still looking for a publisher/distributor - hopefully I can and will sort this soon!

Will keep everyone posted on the developments.

Thank you all, much appreciated and I know this book will be a very helpful resource for musicians who are curious about and like these 'old classics'.

I love these early pieces :).

Will update soon.

Jack_Campin - 7-31-2017 at 04:13 PM

How about lulu.com?

Jono Oud N.Z - 8-6-2017 at 01:42 PM
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How about lulu.com?


Hey, I have sorted a distributor now.
Will end through the link soon :).

Have a good day all.

John Erlich - 8-10-2017 at 05:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Jono Oud N.Z  

Quote:

How about lulu.com?


Hey, I have sorted a distributor now.
Will end through the link soon :).

Have a good day all.


Let me know (email) when you post the link, so I can waste no time advertising your book on my "Turkish Music for Non-Turks" FB page!

Jono Oud N.Z - 8-18-2017 at 12:23 PM

Hi.

Sorry about the delay.
Just moved house but it will be available soon.
Have a good day all:).
Peace.

Jono Oud N.Z - 8-29-2017 at 01:41 PM

Update.
The book has been sent through to the publisher and will hopefully be available soon:).

Jono Oud N.Z - 11-23-2017 at 11:13 AM

Still waiting to hear about the book.
Hopefully soon.

I could make it available elsewhere also if anyone has any ideas of publishers?

Hope this book can be available soon:).

DavidJE - 11-24-2017 at 01:22 AM

Although I very much dislike Amazon, I have published books on CreateSpace/Amazon (http://www.createspace.com), and it is easy to do and works very well. The quality of the books is high as long as they are black and white, you make more money per sale than any other publisher I am aware of, they're listed on Amazon, etc..

Jono Oud N.Z - 11-28-2017 at 06:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DavidJE  
Although I very much dislike Amazon, I have published books on CreateSpace/Amazon (http://www.createspace.com), and it is easy to do and works very well. The quality of the books is high as long as they are black and white, you make more money per sale than any other publisher I am aware of, they're listed on Amazon, etc..


Thanks!!:)
I will have a look.

Jono Oud N.Z - 12-12-2017 at 12:16 PM

Finally the book is now available:).

Here is the link:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1981491902/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513...

ilovegreentea - 12-12-2017 at 11:32 PM

Hi Jono!!

I'm very interested in your book! I was wondering if you sell electronic copies. I live in Singapore and buying the book from Amazon is difficult.

Thanks!

Jono Oud N.Z - 12-13-2017 at 01:27 PM

Hi.

Thank you :)

Not at this point unfortunately, but I will let you know.



Don Z - 12-19-2017 at 08:29 AM

Just received ir from Amazon!

Jack_Campin - 2-9-2018 at 05:26 AM

God - you have to CREATE AN ACCOUNT with those <b>shoot</b>s to buy it?

Anybody got a second-hand one?

Jack_Campin - 2-14-2018 at 11:45 AM

Okay, problem solved. I know someone who's already signed up with them and he can get it for me.

Jack_Campin - 2-24-2018 at 03:34 PM

Amazon's invoice for this says it's being printed in the US - why? Surely it can be printed in the UK? (lulu prints locally).

Jack_Campin - 3-7-2018 at 06:00 AM

Mine arrived, and while it's great to have it all, there are some problems.

Something odd happened in binding - the top edge has been squashed along a band an inch wide. I've handled vast numbers of books of all periods and price bands and never seen that before. Nothing torn or illegible, it just looks weird. No conventional publisher would try to sell something like that.

There are no editorial notes, not even a list of sources. Could Jonathan post them here?

Most seriously, the typesetting is really bad. Probably done with a very inflexible software package. Inter-staff spacing is usually far too much, wasting page area with pointless whitespace. While the notation is too small for easy readability. Some lines are squashed up, some pieces are spread over too many pages making for unnecessary page turns, and some pieces are printed sideways for no reason I can see. I can get much better print and layout quality with freeware, for music of similar scale - unfortunately I can't do microtones or I'd just reset Jonathan's book myself.

The only other print on demand book I've ever bought was Eric Ederer's "Makam and Beyond", from lulu.com - substantially bigger, cheaper and better produced.