oudman - 4-11-2005 at 03:50 PM
Hi guys
quick question - im in the process of ordering an oud. Will bone rosettes (as opposed to wood rosettes) effect the sound of an oud in any way (since
the bone is heavier than wood)?
oudman - 4-14-2005 at 03:16 PM
wow, its really great to hear all of your input on this 
habeebkum - 4-14-2005 at 03:31 PM
sorry oudman, the thing is am not too sure if it will or of it wont. i.e. no experience with bone rosettes. but if u want my opinion, i dont see why
it should affect the sound of the oud. good luck with finding one, and when u do, post a few soundclips dude
Stefan Andalus - 4-15-2005 at 09:12 AM
Bone-wood-plastic. It is not the material that makes a difference, it is the weight. Anything that inhibits the soundboard's vibration will affect
the tone. Thus an open soundhole is best. A very light rosette, no matter what it is mad of, will hardly affect the tone at all. Heavy bone or
heavy wood, etc. WILL affect the tone.
Dr. Oud - 4-16-2005 at 06:36 AM
Well, the weight theory sounds plausable, but in fact it doesn't matter what you put in the hole if anything. Weight matters in the tone area, from
the bridge to the bottom edge of the hole. A heavy bridge (rosewood, ebony) does effect tone, and a heavy or laminated pickguard can inhibit vibration
as well as the thickness of the soundboard itself and the size and location of the braces in this area. The size and location of the hole affects the
resonant frequency of the reflected wave from the body, but nothing above the bottom edge of the hole contributes to the tone of the oud. The Nahat
family often used laminates of bone on a 1/4 inch (12mm)! thick slab of hardwood, and their tone is legendary. Arafati uses dense plywood roses, which
you'd think would inhibit the tone but it doesn't. The fact is. nearly all of the sound from the face vibration is produced in the area from the
bridge to the bottom edge of the soundhole. While you can feel some vibration all over the instrument, the Rose material won't matter, really it
won't.
Stefan Andalus - 4-16-2005 at 11:32 AM
There goes another one of my theories down the drain, and I couldn't be happier and more pleased! I am so happy to be a member of this forum. I learn
something about my beloved instrument every day from people who know so much more than I do. Thanks so much for the interesting and expert
information.
oudman - 4-16-2005 at 02:03 PM
thanks for ur help guys
billkilpatrick - 7-23-2005 at 03:51 AM
a little late on this but what size bone are you planning on using? do you plan to join several pieces of bone together? ... the pelvis maybe? ...
bits of bone glued to laminated wood?
interesting idea. if you do do this, could i ask for some photots?
- bill
cshrem - 7-24-2005 at 07:48 AM
I've never even heard of this, Im thinking that it could affect the tone of the oud but im not sure. can you post a sound clip like habeebkum asked?
oudman - 7-24-2005 at 06:13 PM
I ended up getting the oud with bone rosettes, the only way know if it affected the sound, is if i make a clip with and then without the rosettes
palestine48 - 7-24-2005 at 06:15 PM
who did u order the oud from? give us details
spyros mesogeia - 7-28-2005 at 02:25 AM
Dear friends,
it's a little bit late but my opinion is that the rosettes work as a filter of the sound,to all of my ouds I always searched the most specific
rosette to choose ,and to my last one oud,a single hole oud,Dimitris sugest to me the wooden rosette,I played without rosette,and after that,the
diference was clear.
Regards to all
Spyros