I was sorry to see your forums hacked. I hope it will not be too much trouble to get them back up again.
I am pleased to see the rest of your site is still intact.
Keep up the good work.
Regards,
Gregmavrothis - 9-24-2005 at 08:53 AM
Thanks Greg,
I appreciate the message. The truth is I'm tired of this. First it was a Muslim extremist, or someone posing as one, now a supposed 'Turkish
hacker'...I even had to take down my guestbook b/c someone was hacking into that as well. It's ridiculous to me that a site that promotes Middle
Eastern music and culture is being attacked by people from that region, though who knows who they really are and why they do this.
Anyway, the forum was not used very much in general, and we still have this great forum, which is much more complete. Honestly, before I made the
forum (I couldn't have done anything on the main site, forum, or guestbook without Mike's help), I didn't think it was necessary since we all share
this one. Well, we gave it a try but I'm too busy and fed up to keep at it.
As soon as my PC is fixed, I will get rid of the useless forum and guestbook links on the oud cafe pages.
Sorry to be in a negative mood with this topic. I really appreciate your message.
Take care,
mSamirCanada - 9-24-2005 at 10:18 AM
I feel you mav.
If you dont keep your own forrum please stick around this one as many of us enjoy your presence here and I always looking forward to what you have to
say and even more when you post a soundfile.
Regardless I hope you wont get discouraged by this and sincerly I wish you the best.
Efkharisto polis reh.
Regardssyrianoud - 9-24-2005 at 10:19 AM
Hi Mavrothis sorry to hear that your forums where hacked.You should report it to the FBI so who ever is doing that should get the panishment and pay
for it in Jail time so he or she won't do it to others ,Sorry to say that there are some people that like to hert others by doing these childish
things. But hope that you report it,You can go online and find the site to report and they will act emediatly.I did many years ago and they cought
some one in the fareast hacking computers.Hope that you Forums will be back soon. sorry again to hear that ,Best reagards Samir ,Californiamavrothis - 9-24-2005 at 11:23 AM
thanks guys
elrabee3 - 9-24-2005 at 11:34 AM
thats sucks man, i really feel very sorry for you.
i think this comes from a very weak and jeloius person.
i really feel sorry to hear that.Jonathan - 9-24-2005 at 11:46 AM
Sorry you are going through all of that, Mav. But, maybe you are right--perhaps the fewer forums the better--I hope that doesn't come accross the
wrong way. It is just that it might not be necessary, and not worth the headache.
But, I do wish you you would bring back the makam pages someday. For those of you that did not see it, there used to be a general explanation for how
to approach a taksim for the various makamat. The rules, I guess you would say. I am so glad I downloaded them before you took them off, because I
refer to them often. I think the oud community would benefit from having those back up. Even not updated--just as they were. I know that you think
they were limited. But, still, your knowledge of them is way beyond that of most of the readers (certainly well beyond my knowledge of the
maqamat).
Having a website can be a pain, especially ones as involved as yours and Mike's. They are greatly appreciated.
All the best,
Jonathan
And, by the way, after the one millionth time listening to it, your version of Kadifeden Kesesi still knocks me out. Just a meloncholy vibe in there
that gets to you. I don't know if the Greek lyrics mean the same as the Turkish ones, but you really pull something cool and soulful out of that
tune.Sidi - 9-24-2005 at 12:45 PM
Hi Mav,
Well I can only echo the sentiments of our friends here...this is really sad. I know what it feels like, when someone puts your efforts to waste.
I hope you get things sorted soon.
Take care,
-Sidikasos - 9-24-2005 at 06:42 PM
I'm very very sorry to hear about this.... Mavrothis, I really appreciate your work on your site, all the knowledge you have acquired, and your
willingness to share that knowledge. How best to spend your time is something only you can decide, but do know that the influence of sites like
yours are not necessarily measurable by numbers of clicks or posts. Whatever you do, please continue to share your knowledge on the internet in
some way... MarkElias - 9-25-2005 at 12:15 AM
I am very sorry for this thing too...i wish you all the best for your website Mav, while it's unbelivible that people spend his time in doing this
stupid things, wasting the work and passions of other people...that's the dark side of all the internet world...i am sorry..
eliasMike - 9-25-2005 at 01:14 AM
Hey Mavro....remember my golden rule?
People suck...animals rule!
I'm no member of PETA or anything, but that rule holds up everytime. I'm with SamirCanada...we need you around here a lot more anyway bud.
Be well,
Mikemavrothis - 9-25-2005 at 07:21 AM
Thanks guys.Elie Riachi - 9-25-2005 at 12:37 PM
Hey Mav,
I sympathize with you buddy. It sounds so unchristian but I say "An eye for an and a tooth for a tooth." Enough is enough. Report it to the FBI
and the Homeland Security too. I understand if you feel that it may not be worth the aggravation and the time, but the bastard should be taught a
dear lesson if "it" is within the reach of the hand of the law and capable of learning!
There maybe some anti-hacking tools out there that could discourage such imbeciles from doing their evil deeds which regardless of their religion or
beliefs will eventually earn them a free one way ticket to hell.JT - 9-25-2005 at 04:19 PM
Very sorry to hear that man, I hope its all sorted out. Its is just ridiculous when something of this nature happens and it's time it stops....it's
now a good time to pick up the oud and have a play, you'll come up with amazing taqasims in this mood.
Cheers mate and I hope to see ya soon,
JTJameel - 9-25-2005 at 06:01 PM
Mav,
My hearfelt condolences I've been in that boat before....
The Internet can be a real sewer of humanity.
I'm with Mike. Animals are great. And I AM a member of PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) Jonathan - 9-25-2005 at 06:03 PM
I love animals.
They're delicious.Elie Riachi - 9-25-2005 at 06:23 PM
Okay. I was a vegetarian for several years, until my wife brought me some fried kibbeh mehshieh "stuffed" that my mom made and told me that it was
the best falafel she ever tasted, I had a bite and that became the end of me being a vegetarian. But let us be honest it is healthier to mainly have
a vegetarian diet.
Well anyway let us cook these hacker animals in hot grease and feed them to the dogs.spyros mesogeia - 9-26-2005 at 07:55 AM
hey Bro,sad to hear that
We really miss you here in Mainland man,I really hope to get theyr payment from God.
Na eisai panta kala aderfe,ayto na soy dwsei na katalabeis ti aksizeis kai oti arxizoyn na se zhleyoun kai na se xtypane....ara aksizeis polla
Na eisai panta kala kai dynatos
Best Regards to all
Spyrosjohn (beloved) habib - 9-26-2005 at 11:08 AM
yo... just wanted to post up my support... it's all good ... as long as your health is good and you can keep the Oud love comin! Alan - 9-27-2005 at 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Elie Riachi
Hey Mav,
I sympathize with you buddy. It sounds so unchristian but I say "An eye for an and a tooth for a tooth."
an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Mav I hope you don't give up on your site and forum. Don't let them win. I am looking forward to the update on your oud lessons.
Regards
Any help ?
spyrosc - 9-27-2005 at 03:58 PM
Hey brother Mav,
You have put too much work in there and your contribution is invaluable to many of us. Your site provided a daily time of enlightenment for many.
Is there any way that the valuable content can be preserved ? Is there anything I can do ? I would be happy to help with the hosting and the
day-to-day operations if you need that, and you can just focus on preparing the lessons and any of the content you feel up to. We can't lose you man !
You are too valuable a resource and too good a player. Can we do something ?
Let me know
Spyros C.mavrothis - 9-28-2005 at 06:07 AM
First, thanks again to everyone for the support, it's really nice of you guys.
Spyro, thanks for offering to help with the site, I never thought of anything like that. The material on the forums probably is still retrievable, so
I'll work on that. There had been some good discussions, though few I'd say, especially in comparison with this forum. Dincer had contributed a lot
of help, along with others.
So I'll do what I can. As for the lessons, I'm still working on my own understanding of the makams, so it will take a while for them to start again.
They will come back after a time though, and I think in a more helpful and qualitative manner.
Spyros, please feel free to email me any more ideas you may have on the site, along with anyone else who is interested in the material there. It's
meant to be helpful to people who don't have a teacher nearby, though of course the progress on the site has been stalled for some time.
Anyway, thanks again, and hopefully now that my pc has been fixed (woohoo!) I can start updating the site again.
Sincerely,
mavrothisMike - 9-28-2005 at 07:47 AM
Mavro,
As you know....you do have the newer version of XMB already installed. The same one we are using here. It would be an easy fix for you bud. Also, we
can look into retrieving the phpbb posts and putting them on the XMB. I think there might be a converter. I say we take a vote. My vote is for you to
go with XMB!
Anybody else?Mike - 9-28-2005 at 07:56 AM
Just checked...there is no converter unfortunately, but I still vote for you putting up the XMB forum Mavro. oudmaker - 9-30-2005 at 01:36 AM
Mine is for it too!!!
Mav
Make it work but commiting yourself to take good care of it. You let it go unattended for so long.
Dincer
I've been in that boat before....