peppeo77 - 11-26-2005 at 01:07 PM
hey guys! This is definitely a weird oud! It's been done by an italian lute maker, really nice, isn't it? i wonder how it has to be the feeling of
holding a oud so thin, like an electric guitar.
Have a look there, anyway.
Ciao ciao, Giuseppe.
http://www.liutaiomagico.com/default.asp?idCategory=33&category...
peppeo77 - 11-26-2005 at 01:08 PM
here is the pic
bye
Orahim1 - 11-26-2005 at 06:47 PM
I don't know if this can properly be called an oud. It has frets, more like a lute. Very unusual shape and peg location though.
peppeo77 - 11-27-2005 at 06:25 AM
It is definitely a oud. The frets you see are just motherpearl inlays in the fingerboard, not like the gut frets of the lute. The strange fact,
besides the shape and the tuning pegs, is that it has two single basses instead of the usual one. But I guess it's just because it's a custom
model.
Bye Bye, Giuseppe.
wfspark - 11-27-2005 at 09:23 AM
Are the strings doubled like the rest of the strings, or are the spaced out so that each bass is tuned a different note. If it is doubled like the
rest of the strings, I believe that's a practice some of the old Turkish oud makers used to do.
William F. Sparks
Mike - 11-27-2005 at 09:47 AM
That's one funky instrument. It is interesting how he moved the pegbox into the body. Definitely innovative, I guess.
its amazing
mourad_X - 11-27-2005 at 11:11 AM
hi all
as mike says it is realy a funky design,
i love to see that somebody has some new ideas, and is not only copying
other people designs....
...to hold an electric oud is more difficult than to hold an acoustic one
becouse of the thin body the right arm is to close to the (human)body
regards
mourad
Vince Millett - 11-27-2005 at 01:02 PM
It would be easier to hold, though, for someone who started as a guitarist or who played cittern or mandola first. This instrument actually looks a
bit like a cittern or tenor mandola apart from the peg location.
spyros mesogeia - 11-28-2005 at 07:15 AM
well.....I don't really see an oud,or electrical one,but if someone likes it,he can get one....I have electrical oud,and I really love the fact that
it has the 11 strings and pegs with pegbox,even if it is electrical...
Regards to all
jazzchiss - 11-29-2005 at 01:46 AM
It really seems to me like a small monster.
It’s evident that 11 pegs have not fitted him, but the solution of two simple cords does not seem very interesting, better had designed it with 5
double strings.
It’s not electric but electrified.
Multi Kulti - 11-29-2005 at 04:52 AM
it is not an oud...
That is a fretless mandola with piezo...
or do you think that every fretless instrument that has more than 8strings is automatic and oud?? That is crazy to believe.
Glissentar guitar from Godin has 11 strings (like oud) and is fretless but ive never heard someone to call her a OUD ...
Nikos
peppeo77 - 11-29-2005 at 08:28 AM
niko, there's a link in my first post, go and see if you don't believe. This instrument has been made by an italian lute maker, I agree it has a
strange shape, but it's an oud. The page is in english also, go and see...
http://www.liutaiomagico.com/default.asp?idCategory=33&category...
And don't worry, I've seen a lot of instrument in my life, with a lot of strings, and I know that the most of them are definitely not ouds...ciao
ciao
Giuseppe
p.s.:do you really think that instrument has a mandola scale?mmm...
David Parfitt - 11-29-2005 at 08:54 AM
I agree with Nikos that this is definitely not an oud. What defines an oud is its bowl-shaped body formed from strips of wood. The relative dimensions
of the body and neck must also be taken into consideration in order to differentiate an oud from a buzuq, saz etc..
Just because an instrument maker (no matter how respected) calls an instrument an oud, it does not make it an oud.
David
ofadel - 11-29-2005 at 09:40 AM
I would disagree with the idea that what makes an oud an oud is the bowl made of strips of wood. I just had a custom electric oud built for me, and
I don't think there is anyway you could call it anything but an oud. But it does not have a belly nor is the back made of strips of wood. I will
post pics of it later today.
David Parfitt - 11-29-2005 at 10:21 AM
Omar,
I take your point, but when I was talking about an oud I was referring to an acoustic instrument. I agree that you can have an 'electric oud' in the
same way that you can have an electric guitar, but the way in which they transfer the vibration of the strings to the sounds we hear bears no relation
to their acoustic counterparts.
Anyway, the instrument in question is neither an oud nor electric; if anything, it is electro-acoustic - i.e. a hollow-body acoustic instrument with a
transducer or pickup.
Regards
David
Andy - 11-29-2005 at 01:03 PM
How big is it, I mean what are the dimensions? I would imagine it would take getting use to without a peg box. I think having the tuners placed as it
shows is a good idea. It certainly fixes the problem of wooden pegs slipping or the argument of replacing wood pegs with metal tuners thereby making
the oud top heavy. Personally, I enjoy the sound of accoustic ouds but who's to say it is wrong or not correct to redesign the instrument. 