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Oud's gender

zalzal - 1-27-2006 at 01:02 PM

I wonder whether oud is male or female. Arabic language is male, pl. a'awad, but turkish seems to be female.
In Europe, lute or oud seems to be male, (french and spanish at least) i do not know in english.

So the oud is the father or the mother of the guitar?

al-Halabi - 1-27-2006 at 01:49 PM

In Turkish and English, nouns lack grammatical gender, so the word for oud is neutral, neither masculine nor feminine. In Arabic and other Semitic languages nouns have grammatical gender, and the word oud happens to be masculine. In some European romance languages (French, Spanish and Italian, for instance), the word for lute is also masculine, but in German "Laute" is feminine. All the options are available.

sydney - 1-27-2006 at 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by zalzal
So the oud is the father or the mother of the guitar?



The oud is mother with no doubt ... it is always pregnant. :D

hakeem.ram - 1-28-2006 at 02:57 AM

IF it is always pregnant, when is the baby due. Would love to see the baby oud. Wanna try to hear who it cries out its firts taqseem!:))

peppeo77 - 1-28-2006 at 05:27 AM

If the oud is a always pregnant mother, how is it possible to get the new born oud? :D
Anyway, in italian the word for lute is Liuto, that is male gender. When we talk about the oud we use the male form (l'oud) since italian doesn't have the neutral gender. The guitar, istead, is a female (la chitarra).
I must try a match between my guitars and my ouds, to see what would be the result of this union...:))
Pace, salamat, shalom,
Peppeo.