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Check this out

Longa - 1-30-2006 at 10:34 AM

Must check this out
http://www.elashmawyoudandnay.com

Thanks for sharing Longa

sydney - 1-30-2006 at 05:37 PM

There are some nice info there but I noticed that the audio files are at very low quality and the video are very larg in size.

I guess it would be a waste to download them

I have downloaded one audio "oud sahran 1980" and one video "electronic oud"

SamirCanada - 1-30-2006 at 07:58 PM

This is a nice set of videos.
I sugest the Ahmad Fathi video he is verry verry young in it :)
but still he's playing like a pro at that age.

El Ashmawy Website

noon - 1-31-2006 at 08:55 AM

I have seen this website and I think that Naseer Shamaa should be ashamed of stealing the 8 string oud from Magdy El Ashmawy which is obvious from the videos and the references section. May I have comments on this subject as stealing others ideas started to be the theme nowadays.

Al Farabi Manuscript

manuscript - 2-3-2006 at 01:03 PM

manuscript
Hello all, I have heard about this most interesting and intriguing subject regarding the inventor of the 8 string Oud. Please do forgive me I have not introduced my self to you but I am a scholar of Arabic origin in the study of ancient oriental manuscripts. I have work with several auction/antiquities houses and also lecture part time in a university. I have heard about the above subject through one of my loyal students who is an Oud fanatic. I can say through my own experience and research (hence the reason that it took me so long to comment on the matter) that Dr. Elashmawy is the inventor of the 8 string oud and not Naseer Shamma as he says. Basically I have seen both elashmawy's and shamma's respective websites and I have come to the following conclusion. shamma claims that he has come accross a original manuscript that Al Farabi has written. As an expert in this field I say it is proposterous for the following reasons:
1) There is no known document in existence in any library index or university sources.
2) The language used in the manuscript is not of the time of Farabi neither are the names used for the muscical tones (Maqam). It is all modern language.
3) The handwriting and the calligraphy have no relation to the period in time of which they are supposed to have come from.
4) Finally and most importantly, Shamma claims that this manuscript describes and 8 string oud, if anyone looks at it you can clearly see that it illustrates 7 strings and not 8.

See for yourselves and you will understand.

chaldo - 2-3-2006 at 04:12 PM

THANKS ya Longa!!! these are amazing videos.