Would the learners model from Haluk be of high enough quality for a beginner?SamirCanada - 2-1-2006 at 01:02 PM
Most definetly yes. The best quality learner oud you can get on the internet. Have fun learning the oud.
By the way what type of music do you want to play? Arabic or Turkish. There is a difference in the 2 types of ouds and Haluk's ouds are turkish and
are made to be tuned in a turkish fashion. If your looking for a Arabic oud you should skip the beginer oud and invest in one that is of higher
quality because there arent any good beginer ouds to be easily foundrasuulilasahraa - 2-1-2006 at 03:12 PM
I plan to play Arabic (I already have some experience with the Arabic music system on my violin). Are the two very different? If so, where would be
the best place to get an Arabic Oud?
RE: Haluk learners oud
sydney - 2-1-2006 at 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by rasuulilasahraa
I plan to play Arabic (I already have some experience with the Arabic music system on my violin). Are the two very different? If so, where would be
the best place to get an Arabic Oud?
This oud can be tuned in Arabic - no problems.
Our friend Greg here is using it with arabic tuning.
I will even sound warmer. It's up to you anyways.
I am about to order one my self and I play arabic music.Musa - 2-1-2006 at 08:34 PM
I also think that the beginner oud or lowest price professional oud from Haluk would probably be your best bet. It also comes with an English
instructional VCD.
Scott Wilson, a well known oudi and performing artist on the East coast, who also performs on Turkish television when he's there, also plays his
Turkish ouds in the Arabic DGADGC tuning. He says that he prefers that tuning. I too play my Turkish oud in this tuning, and it does just fine.
As I have adivised others, if you buy an oud from Haluk, ask him especially to check for cracks and other defects, well fitting tuning pegs that hold
their tune, low string action (without any buzzing) and quality strings, good volume, tone, and resonance. Also tell him that you are an experienced
violinist, and that you will be posting your oud results on this, the most popular oud forum (please do!).
Wishing much success with your first oud.
Salamat,
Musarasuulilasahraa - 2-2-2006 at 06:00 AM
Alright, you guys have convinced me, I'm getting an Oud from Haluk. Just have to save up a few more dollars (Shipping is expensive!).madzub - 2-8-2006 at 09:41 AM
It's not just the tuning that you should consider, but the difference between the tonal quality that you will get from the smaller Turkish instrument
vs. the Arabic size. For example, you could tune a violin to the viola tuning, but it's not going to then sound like a viola! (and the size analogy
here is pretty close).
So listen to some recordings of both Turkish and Arabic instruments and decide on the "tessitura" (tonal range) that you prefer. You can get very
playable beginner's ouds in the Arabic size (I happen to have one for sale, $250 plus shipping, probably out of your price range... I've reconditioned
the tuning pegs and strung it with Aquila nyglut strings) but you have to be careful of course who you buy from. Yehia at the Nile Shop store (see
E-Bay) is pretty helpful. I bought my first oud from him for $225 including shipping, but outgrew that in a year.Jason - 2-8-2006 at 03:15 PM
I have one of Haluk's beginner ouds. It sounds very good once you put a good set of strings on. I say go for it. Not long ago a member here sold
his Haluk oud for nearly the same price he paid for it so I don't think you'd have much trouble selling it if you decide it's not for you.Brian Prunka - 2-9-2006 at 04:21 PM
The viola/violin comparison, while somewhat illustrative, is not a very good one, for a couple of reasons:
1. violas are already rather small for the tones they produce--it should be much larger, if it weren't impractical for playing.
2. violas are a 5th lower than violins, a much bigger change than between turkish/arabic ouds.
It does bring up some good points, though:
-regardless of tuning, turkish and arabic ouds are designed with a different sound in mind
-tuning an instrument lower than intended changes the timbre, not just the pitch
still, it's certainly possible to tune a Turkish oud to Arabic tuning and get a good sound. This is what I generally use; many of you have heard the
sound in my posts.
Your oud
sydney - 2-9-2006 at 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by madzub
I happen to have one for sale, $250 plus shipping
Would you kindly post some photos and give some info.?
ThanksOtis - 3-2-2015 at 12:56 PM
Hey just saw the conversation, I know you said you were more into Arabic, but here's an Egyptian oud with a gig bag, for a good price -
9 years ago :d