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Seven courses oud by Maurice

tsugumi - 3-6-2006 at 09:24 AM

Hi

I requested a simple design to Maurice as much as possible.

Regards,
tsugumi

tsugumi - 3-6-2006 at 09:36 AM

Oud back

tsugumi - 3-6-2006 at 09:38 AM

Oud neck

tsugumi - 3-6-2006 at 09:39 AM

Oud Top

SamirCanada - 3-6-2006 at 12:15 PM

Verry Nice!! similar design to mine. I like it verry much.
What is the back made of? Indian Rosewood?

I love the sound of mine.Can we hear it?
PLEASE! :D

Greg - 3-6-2006 at 10:44 PM

A very nice oud. My sincere congratulations.

Is the neck wider than with conventional 6 course ouds?
How many mm wide is it at the nut?

Mourice has done a lovely job on this one.

Play it in good health Mitsugu.

Regards,

Greg

Stretch - 3-7-2006 at 07:56 AM

Excuse my ignorance, but can you tell me how you tune a 7 course oud? Is it used only for one kind of music, e.g. Iraki or Egyptian or...?

Rob

7- string tuning

LeeVaris - 3-7-2006 at 03:44 PM

Probably the most common tuning is to simply add the next higher note in the sequence of 4ths - I've really only seen this done for arabic ouds so (low to high):

C F A d g c f

Iraqi tuning might go something like:

F A c d g c f or even:

A c d g c f F where the bass F is placed next to the high f at the bottom - Munir Bashir used this tuning.

I've been experimenting with :

A E A d g c f where the low A is one octave lower than the normal A (5th string) - this is great for playing with A as the tonic. You can strum across the bottom 3 strings and get this great big droning 5th sound and if you finger the "C" note on the 5th string "A" you've got the complete triad. Then you still have 4 more strings for melody.

:airguitar:

tsugumi - 3-8-2006 at 04:38 AM

Thank you for the comment of everybody.

Samir, back is made of Pelleysander rosewood and Paddok.

Hi Greg, nut size is about 36 or 38mm.
I'm sorry it is not an accurate figure.

Stretch, My tuning is usually DGAdgcf, and sometimes CFAdgcf.

Lee, Thank you for an appropriate comment.

I wish to express my gratitude to Maurice and Yehia(Nile Shop).

Regards,
tsugumi

Strings of 7courses oud

tsugumi - 3-8-2006 at 05:23 AM

Hi Lee

Are you using lute strings of the pyramid for your seven courses oud?
I want to learn gauge of each course in detail.
Please let me know about your strings.

Regards,
tsugumi

String gauges

LeeVaris - 3-8-2006 at 09:03 AM

Pyramid strings low to high:

C - 1441

F - 1029

A - 1020

d - 1012

g - 1006

c - PVF 0.57

f - PVF 0.47

PVF strings some carbon content, smaller diameter for a higher sound but enough volume to balance against the other strings. If I use a lower tuning for the bass string ( "A" instead of "C") I'll substitute a 1443 or 1445... really only necessary if the string buzzes at that lower tension.

String gauges

tsugumi - 3-8-2006 at 09:19 AM

Hello Lee

Thank you for the valuable information.
Are you buying lute strings from Matthias Wagner?
Or, is it from another?

Best regards,
tsugumi

LeeVaris - 3-8-2006 at 06:56 PM

Yes,

I get them from Mathias, though you can probably order them directly from Pyramid. I've had very good service through Mathias. I don't think he charges any more than Pyrimid does.

akram - 3-12-2006 at 05:29 AM

hello
could you attache sound sample
or send to my mail

akram_jiries@yahoo.com

thank you
akram

tsugumi - 3-12-2006 at 06:54 AM

Hi akram

Because I renewed PC recently, the usage has not been understood yet.

Therefore, I cannot yet make the sound clip.

I'm sorry.

Regards,
tsugumi

akram - 3-12-2006 at 11:33 PM

ok my friend

akram

I am Puzzled

sydney - 3-19-2006 at 02:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tsugumi
Hi Greg, nut size is about 36 or 38mm.
I'm sorry it is not an accurate figure.
tsugumi


Congratulations for your new oud.



In regards to the nut size you mentioned, 36 or 38mm 2mm is a huge difference and very critical specially when it comes to a nut made for a 7 course oud.

I am puzzled at a 7 course oud with a nut that is not even 35mm.

Could it be possible? Can anybody fit 7 course on a nut under 35mm?

Take a look...

Seven course tuning

wfspark - 3-19-2006 at 01:29 PM

The seven course tuning, A E A D G C F, is the tuning Udi Spyros, a forum member uses. Tsugumi, if you are in Texas, spacifically San Antonio, I can help you record a sound clip.
William F. Sparks

excentrik - 3-20-2006 at 10:46 PM

how do you contact mathias?

tarik

tsugumi - 3-26-2006 at 10:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by sydney

In regards to the nut size you mentioned, 36 or 38mm 2mm is a huge difference and very critical specially when it comes to a nut made for a 7 course oud.

I am puzzled at a 7 course oud with a nut that is not even 35mm.

Could it be possible? Can anybody fit 7 course on a nut under 35mm?

Take a look...


Hi Emad

I do not have a micrometer. My nut is about 36.5mm.
Who made your seven courses oud? Maurice Shehata or Fathi Amin?

Regards,
tsugumi

tsugumi - 3-26-2006 at 10:16 AM

Thank you William.

I'm not in Texas.

It seems to tune a lot of kinds in seven courses oud.

Regards,
tsugumi

tsugumi - 3-26-2006 at 10:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by excentrik
how do you contact mathias?

tarik


Hi excentrik

Matthias Wagner
http://www.lutes-strings.de/

Regards,
tsugumi

Re: 7 course oud

sydney - 3-26-2006 at 06:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tsugumi
Hi Emad

I do not have a micrometer. My nut is about 36.5mm.
Who made your seven courses oud? Maurice Shehata or Fathi Amin?

Regards,
tsugumi


It is not my own oud but it is made by Mourice Shehata. The oud sound good but the with of the finger board at the nut can not take 7 course. It comes with 13 pegs and the bridge has got enough holes for 7 course. As you can see the oud has got 6 course on it now and it is what the nut can take. I think the owner of this oud is gonna have to use it as it is. 6 course only otherwise the fingerboard will be too tight.

My Abdo Dagher 7 course oud is 39.0 mm and the depth of the finger board is 18.mm It fits perfetly well in my hand.

I like your oud. Play it in great health.

rojaros - 6-22-2010 at 08:54 AM

Hi, what do you use for the deepest A string?

thanks

Robert
Quote: Originally posted by LeeVaris  
Probably the most common tuning is to simply add the next higher note in the sequence of 4ths - I've really only seen this done for arabic ouds so (low to high):

C F A d g c f

Iraqi tuning might go something like:

F A c d g c f or even:

A c d g c f F where the bass F is placed next to the high f at the bottom - Munir Bashir used this tuning.

I've been experimenting with :

A E A d g c f where the low A is one octave lower than the normal A (5th string) - this is great for playing with A as the tonic. You can strum across the bottom 3 strings and get this great big droning 5th sound and if you finger the "C" note on the 5th string "A" you've got the complete triad. Then you still have 4 more strings for melody.

:airguitar: