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mishmish - 3-10-2006 at 11:15 AM

Boys, I am new at the Forum - I am trying to know more about Arabic music and belly dance....
Would anyone pls explain it to me what tarabic style exactly is.....
I am Hungarian, I've just started to learn Arabic, I am still struggling with the reading of dictionnaries, so it would also be a great help if you can give me the meaning of some 10 -15 Arabic words - used almost in all Arabic songs which I give you later, if you are open to help.....
Thanks

SamirCanada - 3-10-2006 at 12:26 PM

I will try to help you for the words if you want.

For your question abou tarab. Do you ever listen to music and find yourself so absorbed and soo moved that you can feel it through out your body. And then you feel like the song is taking over your mind like you are drunk with music. It helps to understand the words in music so you can relate to them. Tarab is ultimatly a feeling not a style. Its often associated with a musical style that is called Mawwal the singers of Mawweel usualy bring Tarab emotions to the listeners.
A mawwal is a vocal performance to the singer... much like a taqasim is to the musician
Najwa Karam can make you feel those emotions surely.
http://www.musicoflebanon.com/allrams/el3omrmishwaar.ram
Georges wassouf also..
http://www.wassoufclub.com/wassouf-audio/mp3/mawaweel/WassoufClub.c...
Here is a sample of George Wassouf's famous Mawwal ( he is nick named the sultan of Tarab because he provokes that in people with his music. He's around 14 years old on this)
Farid el Atrash is also well known for his Tarab instigating performances both with oud and singing. listen to this wonderfull peice.
http://www.musicoflebanon.com/allrams/3ishanta.ram
Hope this helps you in finding Tarab. By the way pop arabic music is more often then not regarded as not a good example of "Tarabic" music

amtaha - 3-10-2006 at 03:32 PM

Well, Hossam Ramzy seems to have some interesting music towards that area.

There's also http://www.demna.com. Users there upload and give links to a wide variety of arabic music. There are also threads dedicated to compositional music, although it's not all arabic.

On demna, too, some users translate whole songs.

Good luck!

Koya - 3-10-2006 at 04:51 PM

Szia Mishmish,
Akkor mar ketten vagyunk magyarok ezen a forumon.
En mar nagyon sokat tanultam a zenerol ezen a forumon, biztos neked is tudnak segiteni a tanulmanyaidban. A zene es a tanc egyutt jar.
Sok sikert!
Koya

mishmish - 3-11-2006 at 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by SamirCanada
I will try to help you for the words if you want.


Samir, thank you for your great help. Here are the Arabic words: zekrayat, fakkarfi, asarfikri, magrouh, akhtar, amar, koulli, koullu, oulli, albi, hanan... and I could go on, but I don't want to abuse you...

I listened to the musics you linked in, well, I always adored George Wassouf and Farid el Atrach. And I also adore Aalli gara from Assala. I suspect this is also tarab...

Amtaha, thank you for the link, I started to sudy it for the lyrics of arabic songs....

Szia Koya! Zenész vagy? Hogy keveredtél ide?


SamirCanada - 3-11-2006 at 12:30 PM

Here's to my best what these words represent. Sometimes it depends on the context as many words often have 2 or 3 meanings.

zekrayat, :Memories
fakkarfi, : thinking of
asarfikri, preocupy my toughts
magrouh, wounded ( hurt)
akhtar, : more. (bigger)
amar, : the moon
koulli, : every (all)
koullu, every ( all ) different conjugation same word
oulli, : say ( tell me)
albi, : heart
hanan : dreams

Hope this helps... :shrug:
anything else let me know

mishmish - 3-12-2006 at 11:14 AM

Thank you Samir, I feel much more confortable now. Your help is a step for me, now I can go to see the dictionnary, see how they really spell, anyway it is much more motivating to learn Arabic through nice songs. I already know the letters but I still can not read normally in Arabic, now I think I also have to make some effort and find the other words myself. I will ask you if I am stopped....
(Najwa Karam with the Omr Mishwar is terrific... :applause: )