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us made oud on ebay

billkilpatrick - 3-20-2006 at 02:21 PM

interesting american made oud from the 1930's on us ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/lute_W0QQitemZ7400330864

don't know if there's a problem with photo but the pick guard is blue!?!

Jameel - 3-20-2006 at 05:34 PM

Jonathan,

Do you know this maker?

Jonathan - 3-20-2006 at 05:41 PM

No, nothing. Looks nice, though. I like the rosettes. If any of you buy it, please post some pics.

billkilpatrick - 3-21-2006 at 08:50 AM

don't the staves look well seasoned and gorgeous?

has anyone ever seen a blue pick guard before? - equally gorgeous, if just a tad "elvis."

- bill

Jonathan - 3-21-2006 at 09:20 AM

I hate the pickguard. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I'm sure it is "aftermarket" . Looks like they made it out of that painter's tape. I do like the central rosette, though.

Amos - 3-21-2006 at 12:43 PM

i agree with jonathan, the pickguard is horrific. but honestly i am fascinated by this oud...i wonder how it sounds? if it really is from 1934 its looks to be in great shape...nobody knows this maker?
amos

zalzal - 3-21-2006 at 01:02 PM

funny oud, thepickguard is smiling and the oud is appealing you to play him/her in the rose velvet bed together with the happy green frog beside. The shape and the size of the pickgard could be overwhelming to the oud on brown colour, but in blue it makes the oud smile....

billkilpatrick - 3-21-2006 at 02:15 PM

i'm with you zalzal ... something serene and celestial and slightly cheeky - all at the same time.

what's got my imagination working overtime is where it came from. if ever there was a positive by-product of the global economy, ouds are it. this came from an altogether different time, however - made in (what i imagine to be) an immigrant neighborhood in chicago but not a "new world" instrument at all.

Jonathan - 3-21-2006 at 02:37 PM

It is not that uncommon. There were at least 3 or 4 Armenian immigrants in the United States making Turkish style ouds during this time period. I am sure that there were others. When one considers the huge immigration that took place into the United States during the 1910s and 1920s, it would seem almost expected that they brought some of their crafts and skills with them. These are people that were initially from Turkey, and their ouds tend to be Turkish-style.
Chicago had (and has) a significant Armenian population. So did New York (Kazakian was there). Detroit (Varjabedian). There are others.
I am sure that there must have been Arab makers in the US as well, I am just not aware of them.
A few months ago, I posted some pics of a record label from Newark, New Jersey, with a local recording of a Hijaz Pesrev that could just as easily have been recorded in Turkey. Seems hard to believe now, but when we consider how many different cultures were in the United States, not that far removed in time from their homeland, it is understandable. A beautiful thing, really, that these people tried to hold onto their cultures.
My 2 cents, anyway.

Brian Prunka - 3-23-2006 at 07:20 AM

Looks like Mav wants this one . . . ;)

mavrothis - 3-23-2006 at 07:30 AM

:)