Here a cd of Hakki Obadia
Zalzal, it's not the one you asked for.
That one will come probably friday.zalzal - 5-10-2006 at 10:52 AM
Thank you John and Microber for yr both valuable help and willingness to share.dana - 5-10-2006 at 11:58 AM
and I would like to say thanks also, really appreciate hearing some new (to me) Jewish music.
Shalom!John Erlich - 5-10-2006 at 03:30 PM
Shalom/Salaam All,
One of the reasons that I am involved in playing this music is that it helps to dissolve the (mostly false) border in peoples mind's between Jews and
Arabs.
Best,
Udi Johnzalzal - 5-11-2006 at 12:32 AM
Hélas "Jean Elrich", the actual political borders between israelis and palestinians are not false but a totally illegal and unfair cruel reality for
palestinians, against which resistance is a human right and solidarity a must. (I am talking on this precise situtation between israelis and
palestinians, or better said between both gouvernements and not jews and arabs)
Anyhow i completely agree that playing oud music helps to dissolve some borders in peoples mind's between Jews and Arabs.
I was using the term "borders" figuratively, and specifically tried to avoid any direct political discussion. We all know that this site is enjoyed
by people with many different political opinions and perspectives. I will not embark on a political discussion on this oud page; it is not an
appropriate forum.
Besides, I am absolutely certain that playing music that helps Jews and Arabs to embrace their shared cultural heritage will do more to advance the
cause of peace and justice than any political arguments I could ever make.
Peace,
Udi Johnzalzal - 5-11-2006 at 12:54 PM
And also playing music together even if it is not à shared cultural heritage....like Daniel Baremboim does. This man desserves all our respects and
admiration.
Here some photos for real shared common tradition, not iraquis but algerians juifs, starting with Edmond Atlanzalzal - 5-11-2006 at 12:56 PM
and Cheikh Raymondzalzal - 5-11-2006 at 12:57 PM
and Saoud el Medioni tragically assassinated by nazis at Sobibor concentration campzalzal - 5-11-2006 at 12:58 PM
Edmond Yafil, MouzinoJohn Erlich - 5-11-2006 at 01:07 PM
And let's master Shaheen arbitrate with these wonderful words extracted fm Brian Prunka's link in his previous topic
".....What does music have the power to do? I ask.
Lets take your question a step further. Many people ask me, ‘Can music bring people together?’” he says, grinning. “I always say that music
cannot do that. Music cannot bring people together and cannot solve problems.
“Political traditions have great weight and power, especially in our current age of information and media. Art cannot compete with this. But it has
much more to do with more profound levels of existence and education. On the popular scene, art cannot replace politics, media and the power of the
mainstream, but art can fundamentally help individuals, with depth and vision, to probably enhance themselves, their spirit and their thoughts to
become better people.
“Good art that has depth, vision and beauty will definitely help people become better. I am sure of that.” etJohn Erlich - 5-11-2006 at 04:19 PM
Thanks for the link! On the other issue, I think Simon is being a little short-sighted. Just my opinion...
Dear Zalzal
Please tell me where did you get the picture of Edmond Atlan?He is a cousin and the darbouka player is my...grandfather(Joseph Levy)
S'il te plais dis moi vite ou je peux trouver cette photo
Un grand merci a toi
D te benisse,tu ne peux pas savoir la joie que j'ai en voyant cette photo.
Brunoamarock - 5-18-2006 at 06:19 PM
J'ai trouve
merci
Brunozalzal - 5-19-2006 at 04:18 AM
Nice !!!! I am also happy you are happy.
May be we should open a new topic for Algerian jewish music and musiciens.
Have you family photos which you wouldn't mind to post here ?
Have you old records fm cousin Edmond Atlan playing with "abuelo" Joseph Levy ??
Tu sais, je sublime un peu ce monde musical arabo-juif et andalou de l'Afrique du Nord d'avant les guerres mondiales et de libération algérienne....
mais je ne connais presque rien et toute info sera bienvenueoud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 5-19-2006 at 10:40 AM
MANY THANKS MICROBER!
Salah al Kuwaiti CD
richards1052 - 6-5-2006 at 11:14 PM
Via Google Search, I found a post in this thread relating to Salah al Kuwait's 2 cd Israeli reissue, "Their Star Will Never Fade." But I can no
longer find the post here. If anyone has any idea how/where one may buy the record online pls. provide a link.
I write a world music mp3 blog which covers Jewish music as one of its niches.
In the meantime, a good article about the record & the performer's family is at the Haaretz website.Marina - 6-6-2006 at 04:35 AM
Very interesting article provided by Richard, thank you.
Fortunately the most famous arabic-jewish artist did not get too much forgotten while migrating to Israel. However i imangine lot of usual, normal
arabic-jewish musicians, whith their inherited musical family traditions fm all arab world, may be dying in Israel, by all forgotten.
It woul be necessary to produce a Buenavista Social Club with the elder master still alive..John Erlich - 6-6-2006 at 01:05 PM
I now have the CD and enjoy it very much, although clearly, some of the source recordings used were not in very good condition.
Also, Israel-Music.com actually stocks a fair amount of Arabic music performed by Jews from the Arab world, such as Filfel Gourgy (Iraq), Sliman
Elmaghribi (Morocco), etc. Seach under "Oriental," then pick the country (Iraqi, Moroccan, etc.). Unfortunately, you will have to sift through a
lot of new synthesized "Bus Station" music, but at least you can hear samples of everything.
Peace,
Udi Johnrichards1052 - 6-6-2006 at 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by John Erlich
Unfortunately, you will have to sift through a lot of new synthesized "Bus Station" music, but at least you can hear samples of everything.
Ah, yes...there is so much dreck in Israeli pop music. You do have to be careful. But the traditional music is the real thing &
sometimes as good as it gets.
My mp3 blog doesn't specialize in oud music but I do have some interesting traditional & world music there. You can also narrow yr search to Jewish music if you like.John Erlich - 6-7-2006 at 12:07 PM
Hi Richard,
Some of the best Arabic music I've ever heard was sung by an Iraqi-Jewish-Israeli named Suzan Shahrahbani, known as "Iman." Her recordings, as far as
I know, are only on cassette, and are self-published. I got my first recording of hers directly from her, just to support an Israeli singing
traditional Arabic music. It was bizarre: After a concert in Tel Aviv where she appeared as a guest artist, she came out, opened a backpack, and
dumped cassettes onto a table in the lobby. I bought one just to support her, but it was INCREDIBLE, so I bugged a musician friend there to buy and
mail me the rest of her recordings. I think Iman's recordings are available only from her, but one can always try the little shop of Heze (Yehezkel)
in the shuk (outdoor market) in the Shekhunat HaTikva section of Tel Aviv--he specializes in Arabic music recordings by Israelis from Arab
countries.
