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Machine head

sydney - 1-11-2004 at 05:15 PM

Hello Fine people

This may sound straing to most of you but I have actually done it.

I had a syrian oud that had an amazing sound to it.. you may think it is a sound coming from a studio if you guys listen to it without seeing it. I started using it in professional recording but I noticed that it goes out of tune no matter how perfect I tune it . so I though of changing the pegs to a machine heads that comes with most expensive guitars. They made the oud a bit heavy but it stays in tune for a lot longer and it does help in recording where other digital instruments are involved. Maybe there are a ready made ouds with guitar keys but I did not look.

Thank you all

Emad from sydney

norumba - 1-11-2004 at 09:55 PM

hi Emad,
Haluk Eryadin ( see his site at http://www.eraydinsazevi.com.tr/) offers machine heads as an option on his ouds...

Much appreceiated

sydney - 1-12-2004 at 12:28 PM

Hello oudmate

I thank you for sharing that web site. They do have some great ouds.

Do you play ? have you got oud with guitar pegs?


Best regards.

Emad from sydney

norumba - 1-12-2004 at 10:47 PM

Hi Emad,
i do play, but my ouds have regular pegs - i just think they look too weird with guitar machines on 'em, :D
im a big fan of pegs - Ive had flamenco guitars with traditional pegs, tho my current one doesnt. they balance better, and might possibly add to the tone slightly by having all wood - but thats probably just a weird fantasy, lol...

great playing on the taqsim page, btw....

Ronny Andersson - 1-13-2004 at 09:32 AM

Machine heads on ouds have been around for while. I heard first about it from some Tunisians about 10 years ago.
Not a good thing on an oud...

Machine tumers

Sasha - 1-13-2004 at 12:28 PM

Gunaydin!

I have had a chance to play a Moroccan 'ud that had machine tuners.

What a beast - the (relatively) massive weight of the tuners made the 'ud difficult to hold.

Getting your pegs tuned would be my suggestion

Sasha

Mike - 1-13-2004 at 04:29 PM

Check out these four similar ouds. Same woods and maker of all four ouds, but one with a tradional pegbox and the other with guitar tuners. My preference is traditional for sure.




Schaller Adjustable Pegs

Elie Riachi - 5-26-2004 at 05:56 PM

Hello,

Schaller Adjustable Pegs might be the solution. Here is a link to one supplier http://www.internationalluthiers.com/violinparts.php Scroll down to the peggs. Any one tried these pegs?

Elie

Jameel - 5-26-2004 at 06:37 PM

Also look up an old post about "pegheds". Very nice but expensive.

Elie Riachi - 5-26-2004 at 07:26 PM

Hi Jameel,

Agree. Found these "pegheds" I think a year ago but as everyone has commented, the price seemed prohibitive.

Well fitted tuning pegs seem to work very well in my immitation Ali Khaleefeh oud. I just used a violin reamer and a peg shaper to fit them along with a little bit of peg soap. I also think new strings have to be tuned a few times before they maintain their tuning. I think this is the case regardless of the type tuning system, it has to do with the loop at the bridge and the slight total tension change as other strings get tuned.

nadir - 5-27-2004 at 03:39 AM

The thing I loved most about the oud was its pegbox... Just doesn't look right with other designs...

chuckerbutty - 5-27-2004 at 04:50 AM

A definite Ovation headstock look to it, yes?

journeyman - 5-27-2004 at 09:05 PM

I have a cheap oud that I had a violin repairman fit with viola pegs. It tunes up beautifully, very smooth and holds its tuning.

Roy

Zulkarnain - 5-27-2004 at 09:18 PM

post some image of it..would luv to see hows it look like :)

Regards

journeyman - 5-28-2004 at 09:43 PM

Sorry Zulkarnain, I don't have a digital camera.

Cheers,
Roy