nasir - 12-6-2006 at 12:48 AM
Hi My friends,
My brother has emailed some pictures of my Last Nahat,
So I thought to discuss it before he send it to me.
Here are the pictures
nasir - 12-6-2006 at 12:51 AM
picture 2
nasir - 12-6-2006 at 12:52 AM
picture 3
nasir - 12-6-2006 at 12:53 AM
picture 4
nasir - 12-6-2006 at 12:54 AM
picture 5
Faladel - 12-6-2006 at 04:00 AM
Hello Nasir
I send you U2U
Thank you
Adel - 12-6-2006 at 05:08 AM
Hi,
What is not original about this oud?
Adel
nasir - 12-6-2006 at 08:00 PM
Mar7aba Adel,
I can see that the two small rosettes are not similar, so maybe one of them is not original, but I don't know about the rest, so I posted the pictures
here maybe some experts in wood could help, I feel everything is original ( exept the small rosette )and the sound is nahat to me, when I receive it,
I will post a video file.
thank you
Adel - 12-7-2006 at 12:26 AM
Marhaba ya Nasir,
I do not know how much you know about Nahat ouds, most of the nahats in the market or what so called nahat ouds are fake....however, this oud has the
original back and neck....everything else is new....soundboard, fingerboard, pegs ...etc....
I have been looking for the last 4 years to find a nahat oud in Syria and not found 1 single original Nahat.....
In this period their was an only one single Tawfiq oud which is original and that oud came out of Cairo.
My advice to you if you do not know what a nahat oud is....do not buy it.
Best of luck.
Adel
Mike - 12-7-2006 at 07:55 AM
what a beautiful oud. the soundboard does not look original though, and that is the most important part.
best,
mike
Jonathan - 12-7-2006 at 10:14 AM
What a miserably difficult thing to ascertain--whether an oud is "real" or "fake".
OK--I am not going to say anything about this oud, because I know nothing about Nahats.
In a lot of these threads, though, it seems a lot of us (including me) fall into the trap of saying that the soundboard looks like it has been
changed, and we generally base that on it appearing too new. We do this with other parts of the oud, too, although perhaps less frequently. I don't
know if we should do that, because that doesn't mean that it has been replaced. It could have been sanded down. It could be that the oud was never
played.
I know of some 40 and 50 year old ouds that look like they were just made, and I am certain that they are authentic. It is just a matter of families
owning these instruments, and never playing them. In America, particularly, I think a lot of people of middle eastern decent buy ouds because it is a
connection to the homeland, and never, ever touch the thing.
I can understand saying that a peg box has been replaced on an oud if, stylistically, it does not match the rest of the instrument, or if it is not
like other known examples of the luthier's work. But the soundboard seems a bit trickier. Unfortunately, that is perhaps the most important part of
the instrument.
There are so many people on this board that know more about ouds than I do, so please correct me if I am wrong.
Sorry for hijacking the thread. I just wanted to make the point.
Those small rosettes look great to me, Nasir. Beautiful oud.
Dr. Oud - 12-7-2006 at 11:24 AM
Salam Nasir,
Can you include a picture of the label or what it says - who made it & when, please?
nasir - 12-7-2006 at 02:20 PM
Hi my friends,
That really was a big help, I will get more pictures and post them.
The oud still in my house in damascus, when I bring it here, I will post a video file, the sound of this oud is beautiful.
thank you
zou - 12-8-2006 at 03:24 AM
even if the soundboard is changed it coud be an excellent oud
ziad
paulO - 12-8-2006 at 03:32 PM
Hi Nasir,
Good photos - the inlaid dots in the neck are a neat touch, the back wood looks absolutely beautiful, and the inlay work on the back is very uniqe,
lots going on, but not gaudy at all. Enjoy, and thanks for the photos.
Regards..PaulO
excentrik - 12-10-2006 at 02:58 AM
Hey Jonathan-
I agree with you- I know- My family had one the most amazing ouds sitting around the house since my Grandparents came here (in 1967)- it collected
dust untill my dad (when he was 12 years old) put a foot through the face on accident... My Grandfather played the Ney, he never cared to play it!
It's a very common thing for an Arab, Turkish, Greek, Iranian or "middle eastern" family (like mine) to have this kind of thing going on- I think
people here in the states get caught up in all this "skeptical eye"stuff.
<--- Tarik
excentrik - 12-10-2006 at 03:02 AM
sorry- READ BEFORE YOU POST, TARIK...
I meant to say that my Grandfather played the ney and never cared to pick the oud up...
I still have the bowl of the broken oud- my uncle tried to fix it, but he used plywood for the face and masonite for the fingerboard!
tarik
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:21 PM
Hi My Friends,
I got some more pictures.
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:23 PM
Picture 6
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:23 PM
Picture 7
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:25 PM
picture 8
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:26 PM
picture 9
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:27 PM
picture 10
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:29 PM
picture 11
nasir - 12-10-2006 at 06:33 PM
Hi,
I don't think the pictures are perfect, so I will post more better pictures when I receive it, and I will post more than one video file.
Thank you very much