This the #2 Music sheet as transcripted and played by Jabakji,
Anouar Brahem plays it also nicely on one of his early CDsALAMI - 1-7-2007 at 11:13 AM
the scoreALAMI - 1-7-2007 at 11:27 AM
Brahem's Versionmjamed - 1-20-2007 at 09:32 PM
thank youcbounds - 1-21-2007 at 11:59 AM
Is this a Longa? What Maqam is this? Would this be Turkish or Arabic?ALAMI - 1-21-2007 at 02:09 PM
Yes it is a longa. from Yorgo Bacanos a great Turkish 20th century musician
It is on maqam Sultani Yakah, which is a nahawand on G.al-Halabi - 1-21-2007 at 03:59 PM
Arab notations and performances of this longa attribute it to Yorgo Bacanos, but interestlngly enough, it is not identified as a Bacanos composition
in Turkey. Notations of versions of the piece appear as anonymous compositions or as based on a piece transmitted by Sadi Isilay. Necati Celik
performs the piece on his CD Yasemin, and there too it is not attributed to Yorgo Bacanos. The attribution to Bacanos may very well be erroneous. But
whoever composed it, it's fun to play.Microber - 1-22-2007 at 05:48 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by ALAMI
Brahem's Version
Hello Alami,
Were do that version come from ?
I have exactly the same on the cd "Greek folks instrument : outi".
The title is 'Nihaved longa' ans is played by Haig Yazdjian.
I have the cd in my hands. No doubt possible.
Here is the booklet and a link were it is possible to listen to extract. http://www.amazon.fr/Outi-Vol-7-Various-Artists/dp/B000003YHZ/sr=1-...Microber - 1-22-2007 at 05:58 AM
The complete compressed mono versionALAMI - 1-22-2007 at 06:25 AM
I have this version from an mp3 CD bought in Aleppo from an oud shop under the, handwritten, label of "rare oud recordings" this version was in a
folder called Anouar Brahem in the CD, which could be wrong, and as the recording was not a good quality one, I thought it could be from an early (Pre
ECM) recording in Tunisia (as there is also on this CD some recordings from Radio Aleppo in the fifties including an unusual longa Shahnaz).
The version I have starts with a long and very nice taksim that I cut from the file (to stay under 1 meg), the other tracks in the same folder sound
really like Brahem and that's why I didn't doubt it, I don't know for sure maybe someone can.Microber - 1-22-2007 at 06:44 AM
Yes it could have been Brahem.
The sound of the oud is very clear and light as Brahem do.
But the other tunes on my cd played by Yazdjian are also in the same style.
Very fine and subtil.
There is no taqsim in the beggining of my recording.
Thank you for the sheet music.
I love thet longo.
Robertcbounds - 1-22-2007 at 08:09 AM
Now this is what I need to get better! An MP3 of the Longa so I can hear it and the sheet music to learn it. It is hard to learn the tune if you just
have the sheetmusic. You cannot really get a feel for how the Longa goes. Anyone have anymore of these sheetmusic and MP3 combinations?ALAMI - 1-22-2007 at 01:58 PM
The full version with the taksim "supposedly" played by Brahem of the longa "supposedly" composed by Yorgo BacanosMicrober - 1-22-2007 at 02:11 PM
The taksim you post is the first track of the cd 'greek folk instruments'.ALAMI - 1-22-2007 at 02:54 PM
So the first mystery is unveiled, no taksim would ever be played the same by two different persons, so it is the greek folk CD by Haig Yazdjian.
the guy in Aleppo was wrong, sorry for the wrong info guys and thanks Robert
Second mystery: who is the composer ?spyros mesogeia - 1-24-2007 at 02:02 PM
Let's get serious,the composer is Yorgos Bacanos,and he is the one ho make it with his great style popular to all of us.The great Usta Yorgo
Bacano.
Regardsal-Halabi - 1-24-2007 at 03:22 PM
Whether Bacanos did or did not compose this longa makes no difference to the fact that he was a master of the oud. It is curious, though, that a great
musician like him would not get credit for a composition in the country in which he spent his entire career. I have looked through various anthologies
of Turkish musical notations and have not found this piece attributed to Bacanos anywhere. There are pieces from the Ottoman period whose composers
were forgotten or confused over time. But this is unlikely to have happened with Bacanos, who lived in an age of music recording and publishing that
would have ensured enduring recognition of his compositions (he died in 1977). Spyros, you seem certain that he composed the longa. Maybe you give
some information on this and clarify this odd silence in Turkey about Bacanos's authorship of the piece.spyros mesogeia - 1-24-2007 at 09:35 PM
Dear friend
There was a project about 10 years ago,maybe and more,in Greece.A team with the most known musisians and searchers in Greece had record and write a
book about the Greek composers that had lived in ottoman imperium from the 17th-20th century.The books name is 'Greek Composers of Izmir and
Kwnstantinopole[Istanbul].There are composers and players like ''PAPAS'','ANGELIS',ZAHARIA,GEORGIS,PETRAKI[TYRIAKI],GIORGAKIS
SIVELIOGLOU,ILIAS,STAVRAKI HANENDE,YANIS KYRIAZIS,VASILAKI,HRISTO KYRIAZI,ANTONI KYRIAZI,NIKOLAKIS EFENDI,ALEKOS BATZANOS,YORGO BATZANOS,AND MANY
OTHERS....On this book also are and some references about the great Moldovian Dimitrie Kantemir,and ofcourse Marco Tsolakoglou,and others....
I study this book,and not only,because I have many many books and from Turkey too.There you can find many istorical elements about theyr lifes and
theyr compositions.
Many thanks to Hristos Tsiamoulis and to Pavlos Erevnides,that they had publish this book 10 and more years ago.
Regards to allMicrober - 2-2-2007 at 04:44 AM
A little additional precision.
On the cd of Greek Traditional Music, the Nihavent Longa is credited to
"Giorgos Batzianos".
