Lintfree - 2-9-2007 at 05:00 AM
I have noticed that the name of one of the greatest oud makers of all time is hardly ever mentioned on this site. Karibyan. I wonder why this is.
D.Lindley
SamirCanada - 2-9-2007 at 06:55 AM
Try using the search function you will see that there are quite a few threads that talk about him.
Also this is arabicouds.com not everyone is into the turkish school of the oud. But you will find that there are a few members that have great
knowlege about the turkish oud.
Jonathan - 2-9-2007 at 07:37 AM
Since somebody else brought him up, I guess I will add that I would love to have more pictures of some Karibyan ouds for my website. I have 7 on
there now, but I know that some of you play them , and I would also reallly love to see pics.
Also, I am trying to find out the relationship between Onnik Karibyan and Mgrditch Karibian (another brilliant oudmaker who was based in Thesoloniki,
Onnik's birthplace).
Finally, in Manol's workshop there was a guy named Mgrdich--does anybody know if this was Mgrdich Karibian? And, is there any truth to the view that
Onnik himself might have worked in Manol's shop as a boy? He would have to be quite young, so I have my doubts. But, if his older brother (Mgrdich)
was already working there, this would seem a possibility.
And, on a bit of a tangent:
Are there any suriviving photographs of Manol or his shop?
Sorry, Lintfree--I didn't mean to hijack your thread.
SamirCanada - 2-9-2007 at 08:08 AM
While we await more pictures of Karybian ouds for you Jonathan bey,
LEts listen to master John B play on this karibyan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8uCElSGATU
Jonathan - 2-9-2007 at 08:32 AM
I know it has been posted before, but I love John Bilezikjian's version of Husseyni Saz Semai so much I figured I would post another link for it.:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JUbDxEbIzWE
Everytime I watch it, I am more and more blown away by his talent.
I love the way he plays with it a bit, and has fun with the melody, so that the music is not just some museum piece, but a living and evolving art
form. Still, there is not a single note there that is a throw-away.
Stunning.
Jonathan - 2-9-2007 at 08:35 AM
One last thing--on the dvd that Samir posted a link to, there is a great great version of the Sultani Yegah Sirto by John B. I hope people buy the
dvd rather than just watching the youtube material, because it would be nice to show the industry that there is a market for this material.
http://www.soundboardtv.com
Now, dl, I really have taken your thread off on tangent. sorry about that.
Lintfree - 2-9-2007 at 03:34 PM
Thanks Jonathan. Real neighborly of you. I took a lesson with John Bilezekjian when I bought my Mustafa from him. His method is unique and his
technique is, as you said, stunning. I figure that someone who can play a taxim based on "Louie Louie" and make it sound right definitely is not
ordinary. He plays very lightly but gets a huge sound and can play chords in a chord-melody style that makes you want to put your oud back in the case
and go for coffee. He also gets the BEST concert tone of anyone I've ever heard. His self-designed pickup system is unique although on the outside it
looks similar to other systems. When he played Royce Hall at UCLA he filled the place up all by himself with The Giant Oud of Doom. It's good to scare
people and he loves doing it. Later. Lintfree
Lintfree - 2-9-2007 at 03:42 PM
And anyone who can call himself "Johnny B. Oud" and play so well has a great attitude. Munir Bashir quoted "My Baby Done Told Me" on one of his C.D.s.
The great ones, it seems,many of have a wider view of life than the rest of us. I'll go look for some Karibyan references. Time for another Red Bull.
Lintfree