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sorry off topic guys ABOUT the riqq

oudplayer - 7-17-2007 at 04:46 PM

hey Guys

I just resived a great riqq from israel it sounds great and it looks great.
can someone tell me some great websites or stuff i can learn about the riqq liek how to play , i can play it but nopy properly, so anyhting i can get i ill take.
thx again
thx sammy

SamirCanada - 7-17-2007 at 06:57 PM

hey Sammy there is basicaly 2 styles of playing the riqq.

One is classical and one is cabaret style.

check on youtube there are some sample videos on how to play the different rythms.

you will find that the classical way of holding and playing the riqq is more suitable for Samaii rythms and also a favorite of mine the Wahda. it is also a more delicate way of playing where there is use of more subtle sounds of the riqq.

this is a video of a classical style playing by Michel Merhej
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfFnuBVZPDg

the Cabaret style is a louder more careless way of playing more suitable to large orchestras or wedding bands etc... hence the word Cabaret. Most of the upbeat party Rythms like Saidi, Maqsoum, Ayoub etc...
those are more applicable to this type of playing.

here is a good example...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkzG4J-YxC4

oudplayer - 7-17-2007 at 07:10 PM

Hey samir

Thank aot bro this is good info, i like what u had to say . and it was usefull.
btw whats WAHDA???
when i get a chance i iwll put up a few pics of it.
btw it might sound stupid but the maqum world has rythems as one of the sections does those work with the riqq like are they the same :shrug::shrug:
thx sammy

SamirCanada - 7-17-2007 at 07:39 PM

in arabic music you have the Maqamat which are the melodic system we use.
and then you have the Iqaat which are the different rythms.
you can find some info on maqam world yes.
but Alami had posted for us a bunch of rythm samples a while back from the wizoo darbuka program.

JT - 7-18-2007 at 06:01 AM

Hey Guys,

If you're interested in the req, check this out http://www.myspace.com/jamestawadros
Most of these recordings were done when he was 16.

He is my brother and I think he is awesome on the req.
He has an amazing technique and sensitivity and an great textural variety. You can also hear how he uses the instrument in one of my pieces Cafe Riche
here: http://www.worldmusiccafe.info/files/

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=5398

He is constantly looking for new ways of playing it, what do yoiu guys think?

All the best,

JT

SamirCanada - 7-18-2007 at 07:34 AM

its awsome. pass on my salutations to your bro.
iam a fan of his playing.

oudplayer - 7-18-2007 at 08:07 AM

hey JT

thx for the info question is there somewhere , where i can learn how to tuen it properly or soemthing, it sounds liek when i tuned it b4 its all the same sound and i cant get a nice doum out of it .
thx sammy

JT - 7-18-2007 at 08:17 AM

Thanks Samir, he is pretty special, Ill pass on your wishes.

Sammy, I think the key to a good doum sound is to do with how fast you lift your finger, if you keep it down for too long it gives a muted doum, which most dont want. When I watch James, he sometimes mutes the 'taks' by pressing his index fingers on the skin. I will push James to put up a clip for you. We're a little busy performing at moment, but hopefully he can do it soon,.

All the best,

JT

oudplayer - 7-18-2007 at 08:46 AM

Hey Jt

Yr the man . This is what family is truly about.
and tell yr bro he's great , and fine i guess yr good too lol :D
thx sammy

rebetostar - 7-19-2007 at 10:56 AM

Hey gang,
If your riq is tuned too tight, it will kill the doum. That said, it should be as tight as possible, just short of killing the doum. (this isn't a particularly bassy doum.. should just ring a little). Most importantly, the tension should be even all the way around, so that one axis doesn't give you a different note than the others.

Love that track.. Cafe Riche :buttrock: wicked!