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Qanun method - have one ?

Ariel - 8-4-2007 at 02:23 AM

Hi !

Despite the fact that this is an oud forum I would like to ask the readers if you know of any qanun method.

Thanks,

Ariel//

dubai244 - 8-4-2007 at 01:15 PM

Hi,

I am not qanun player but some thing i would like you to see and basically, i think this is a new method of qanun playing. I Haven't seen some thing like that until i saw this turkish player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yl6PbqVbIk&mode=related&sea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhs7KP_Q97k&mode=related&sea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhOFU7uFA5M&mode=related&sea...

Enjoy !

I would like to know how did you learn qanun, because i would love to learn it as well.

Cheers

:)

Arto - 8-5-2007 at 12:30 AM

Beautiful music and great playing. I know very little about kanuns - I didn´t know you can play vibrato on those like the player in the clips. Thanks for the links!

dubai244 - 8-5-2007 at 01:41 AM

Hi Arto,

It is first time i know that there is similar instrument in Finland. Do you call it Vibrato? Can you send us pictures please so we can see the differences.

Welcome any time.

Cheers

;)

Arto - 8-5-2007 at 02:11 AM

Hi Dubai 244,

I think the instrument you are thinking about is kantele (´kannel`in Estonia, and the same name is used interchangeably i Finland, too). Lots of information and links here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantele

The oldest type of instrument has only five strings but the modern concert kanteles have more than thirty. Originally string were twisted horsehair that gives a peculiar raspy tone, but later brass strings have been used and nowadays steel is almost universally used. Concert kanteles have mechanism to change string tone, to play accidentals and to play in different keys. (well, no quarter tones ;) ). This was invented in the 1920s and was inspired by the lever mechanism in concert harps.

What is nice about Finnish folk music life is that different kinds of kanteles are all used, and the ancient 5-string kantele is very much alive and well. Some musicians get awful lot of music out of only five strings...

NUR - 8-5-2007 at 02:14 AM

Haluk makes a kanun in 2-3 months when ordered.He was sent my cousin in Indonesia last year a very nice professional kanun with a methode book and a set of spare set Dupont brand
strings.The kanun was in special hard case,arrived safely in tune.My cousin was surprised very much that how the kanun arrived in tune after a very long voyage from Turkey to Indonesia.
I will order also when I have enough money.

Regards.


The methode book is in Turkish,I don't know if he has in English.

NUR - 8-5-2007 at 02:26 AM

Oh no!
That instrument is a toy between the Kanun.As my opinion kanun is the best and amazing instrument in the world.
See Göksel Baktagir in excellent performance with kanun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AP1ap1jyG4

dubai244 - 8-5-2007 at 07:59 AM

Hi guys,

Arto, Looks very nice instrument, it is very similar to the kanun. I will be really thankful if you have some sound clip about the "Kanteles"

NUR,I have seen Mr.Haluk kanun, they are really professional and i hope i know how to play kanun otherwise i will order one.

Cheers

Arto - 8-5-2007 at 08:35 AM

Sorry Dubai244, I don´t have sound clips myself, I´m not a kantele player. But the links in that wikipedia article probably contain some. Here are some clips for a large kantele, two for a regular kantele and a third for an electric one. Scroll down about two thirds of the page:

http://virtual.finland.fi/netcomm/news/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=27...

I´d like to show you a soundclip of the primitive horsehair-strung kantele but didn´t find one just now. I´ll post a link if I find one.

all the best, Arto

dubai244 - 8-5-2007 at 09:47 PM

Hi Arto,

I found many videos for Kantele in Youtube.com, has really nice sound and variable in shaps.

By way way, indians are using similar instrument to guitar and they play it exact similar way as Kantele.

Cheers

:)

abdulo - 8-7-2007 at 03:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ariel
Hi !

Despite the fact that this is an oud forum I would like to ask the readers if you know of any qanun method.

Thanks,

Ariel//


Kanun Metodu by Tahir AYDOGDU & Gültekin AYDOGDU

maran - 8-8-2007 at 06:07 AM

ahmet meter is also an outstanding kanun player in a more traditional style, try to check him out too. i haven't seen any really good clips of him on youtube but here's a couple decent ones:

with mehmet bitmez:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ogHVVIXCFhE

nice taksim but the singer is not up to par:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QGjUijygImg

i have been studying kanun the last couple months and i have to say it is an excellent way to learn the makams because it forces you to learn the pitch of each note correctly. of course you need a good teacher for it (which i have!)

oudipoet - 8-8-2007 at 05:19 PM

hi ariel

this september master HALIL KARADUMAN`s kanun method & dvd should come out i heard that it will be in english as well as turkish so if i were you i would keep my eye on that one.

abdulo - 8-11-2007 at 02:23 PM

Hi,

Can some one provide us with online English bookstore to buy this Turkish books from, all the site I found is in Turkish languge .

Thanks

oudipoet - 8-11-2007 at 04:51 PM

i would recomend http://www.tulumba.com you can find a big seletion of turkish books there and the site is in english.