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Oud Techniques For Guitar

ShadowSanctum - 3-26-2004 at 06:42 PM

Hi, I've been playing guitar for several years now and have recently been fascinated by Arabic and Middle-Eastern music. When I heard an oud for the first time I was absolutely spellbound. I would love to expand my horizons of guitar (until I can afford an oud) by maybe learning some oud melodies or techniques for guitar. I've tuned my nylon-string to DGADGC as in the style of Egyptian ouds. If anyone could show me some links to sites or provide some info on how I could play some oud stuff on guitar, it would be much appreciated. It would also help me learn a little bit more about the instrument itself as I know practically nothing about playing oud.

Jameel - 3-26-2004 at 07:50 PM

Welcome,

Try this page to get you started

Then seriously consider buying an oud. Another thread on this forum mentioned a decent oud for $119. It's possible of course to play some Egyptian songs (or Turkish or Greek, etc.) on the guitar, but playing "oud stuff" on the guitar is not a reality. They are two completely different instruments. There is plenty of support here to get you going, including the videos. Check also the links page (David Parfitt's site, and Oudcafe are very good) for more basic info about the oud.

Good luck

Brian Prunka - 3-27-2004 at 11:31 AM

I second Jameel's suggestion of getting an oud, although I always feel it's worth investing in a better instrument as it makes playing more rewarding . . .

Like you, I've played guitar for years (quite a few guitarists-oudists on this forum) and was attracted by the oud. While you can play some traditional pieces on the guitar, the quarter-tones (which are impossible on guitar, practically speaking) are ubiquitous in Arabic music. Without an instrument that can play quarter-tones, you can't play any music written in Bayyati, Rast, Saba, Sikah, Huzam, Suznak, Jaharkah, etc. You can play the music of Anouar Brahem or Rabih Abou-Khalil, and a handful of traditional pieces that have no quarter-tones, but it's pretty limited.
Like Jameel said, you can't play "oud stuff" on guitar, at least not any more than you can play "flute stuff" or "violin stuff" on guitar. You can try playing your nylon string guitar with an oud pick, which will get you a little closer in sound (and help you prepare for playing the oud), but as an oud convert (well, not exactly, since I still play guitar a lot) I can say nothing is like the oud except the oud. Just go for it, you'll be glad you did . . .

ShadowSanctum - 3-27-2004 at 08:26 PM

Alright, thank you for the adivice. Although, until I can afford an oud, are there any links to perhaps, some of the sheet music to the pieces you were saying I would be able to play, such as the Egyptian, Turkish or Greek songs Jameel mentioned?

Brian Prunka - 3-27-2004 at 11:38 PM

here you go:

my site
turkish music
more turkish music
more turkish music
arabic music
oudcafe

bear in mind that the turkish music needs to be transposed down a 5th for an Arabic-tuned oud. Also, the accidentals can be tricky. see david parfitt's site for a good explanation of the various notations.