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gilgamesh - 3-8-2008 at 08:25 AM

Hello forumers!
I' m looking for a 440Hz tuning version of this nice bashraf from Cedre !Is it possible to have some explications about the Morkos special tuning and about the rhythm used ?I think of iqaa aqsaq :rolleyes:

Many thanks
:airguitar:

dubai244 - 3-8-2008 at 10:10 AM

Hi Gilga,

How do you measure tuning frequency ? is there any apecial device for that?

Thanks

gilgamesh - 3-8-2008 at 12:11 PM

Hello Dubai!As many people I tune my oud by the way of a chromatic tuner or I sometimes check the A440 with a simple diapason. The Morkos tune is different, according to my ear.I'm looking for another interpretation because I tired to change my tune especially to be able to follow it!! :cool:

MatthewW - 3-8-2008 at 12:34 PM

Bon Jour Gilgamesh! If this composition is near in pitch to 440 then I think there is some software available that can raise or lower the pitch of a recording to 440 so you can play along with it. maybe someone at your local music store might know about it. bon chance!:

gilgamesh - 3-8-2008 at 12:56 PM

Ciao Matteo!That's a good idea! Gracia ragazzo! But it's a big way-->for just a little track... That's why I hope that another version does exist! :cool:

But you are true, considering that the whole album is tuned bizarre !!!
:airguitar:

MatthewW - 3-8-2008 at 01:20 PM

quella è vita con il oud!

let us know if you find anything that works! ciao!

gilgamesh - 3-8-2008 at 01:28 PM

An investigation is underway ... And I invite all people of good will in this direction!

http://www.amazon.fr/C%C3%A8dre-Ensemble-Morkos/dp/B000005WCA Have a nice week end.
:airguitar:

gilgamesh - 3-10-2008 at 01:30 PM

Hello! nobody knows how this piece is tuned?I have had to cut it because it is too heavy :shrug:

MatthewW - 3-10-2008 at 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by gilgamesh
Hello! nobody knows how this piece is tuned?I have had to cut it because it is too heavy :shrug:

Hi G.- I think this melody begins in a modal G minor, like nahawand farahfaza It's too short a sample for me to figure out where it moves to chord-wise after that.

I'm no expert in Morkos music or tunings but in the first song clip, after a short introduction the melody then seems to be rooted around a modal G minor, like nahawand farahfaza ... then chords move around after this . hope this helps you figure some of it out! :airguitar:

corridoio - 3-10-2008 at 06:36 PM

hi gilgamesh
to me seems tuned higher (A 445/446 hz)
in the first track I think it's makam rast in C in both forms rast-rast and rast-nahawand, because it starts on the second jins rast in G (and in the way down nahawand in G) and after it develope on the first jins rast in C
but I think Brian should give the right interpretation on this..
Anyway you can use the software "transcribe!", where you can play the song and pitch it, slow it, play with a bordone note, you can make loops, so also of a single note and there's a screen where you can detect the note playing.. try it, is very useful
Ale.

corridoio - 3-10-2008 at 07:41 PM

tuned down, should be ok
check it
ale.

corridoio - 3-10-2008 at 07:49 PM

months ago I found this extract from a iraqi cd one of the most useful to understand to "hear" maqam rast..
ale.

corridoio - 3-10-2008 at 08:20 PM

here is file 2 same detuning
I think it's the same rast maqams with a part on suznak (rast C- hijaz G)
ale.

gilgamesh - 3-11-2008 at 07:30 AM

Gracia mile ragazzi... the software transcribe is a revelation for me; very very,very usefull... I enjoy such a gesture of solidarity, that I can only find among this killer forum! I hope I will soon reach a sufficient level to be able to share my music with you.Baci a tuti!

Brian Prunka - 3-15-2008 at 07:20 PM

This piece is in Bayati, the Morkos ensemble is tuned down approximately a whole step, if I remember correctly.