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Mouhamad Fadel 1995

Samer - 9-4-2008 at 03:38 AM

Dear all,

I was offered this oud, I don’t usually buy Fadel ouds, therefore I can’t tell if its real or fake. What do you think ? Can you advice me please ? the sound of the oud is amazing !!

Thanks a lot,

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Samer - 9-4-2008 at 03:42 AM

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Samer - 9-4-2008 at 03:44 AM

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Samer - 9-4-2008 at 03:45 AM

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Samer - 9-4-2008 at 03:51 AM

FastForward - 9-4-2008 at 10:05 AM

I don't think this is a Moh'd Fadel Oud based on

1. The label, I have never seen this label b4, at least not for the period in which the oud was made.
2. The finishing on top is poor.

It seems the oud has been maintained by someone. I am not sure however.

SamirCanada - 9-4-2008 at 12:01 PM

how much would you want for this oud Samer?
I could be interested.

I am not sure if its a real one.
maybe it isnt but I like the look of it.

Samer - 9-4-2008 at 12:30 PM

Well first of all we need to make sure its real. I did not buy it yet. He is asking for $700. so lets say $950 maybe including shipping. dont think it worths that much if its not real.

I think the oud is nice and well made regardless who the maker is.

What do other members think ?

Thanks,

Ronny Andersson - 9-4-2008 at 01:36 PM

It is an authentic Fadel, the label is typical for the year but without the photo of Mohammad (nothing strange).
The finishing on the top have zero to do with its authenticity.

Samer - 9-4-2008 at 05:09 PM

Well I showed to 2 people that knows about oud, they both thought it was Authentic.

I think I will buy it, thanks for your advice Ronny.

Anymore feedbacks ?

Take care,

Alioud - 9-6-2008 at 04:10 AM

Hi Samer,

It does not looks like a real Mohammed Fadhel, because the serial number is wrong.

The serial numbers in 1991 was around 6000 - 6400.

The label inside the oud is not the right label used in 1995.

It is a fake unfortunately.

Look for another Oud.

Samer - 9-6-2008 at 09:13 AM

Okay thanks for the adivce, I will let it go then, I never bought Fadel oud before.


Thanks,

Oud.Proff - 9-8-2008 at 02:04 AM

I have my reservations on the authenticity of this oud ! There are 2 things that stand out for me to say that.

Samer - 9-9-2008 at 03:06 PM

Can you point them out or explain more ? so you dont think the oud is real either ?

Thanks a lot,

kaled_mabruk - 9-9-2008 at 09:09 PM

hallo samer,, i send the oud fotos and the label to Yarou the son of Mohamed Fadel,, and he told me the oud is not real.. he told me the work is very bad and this is not my father work. thanks with my kind regards

akram - 9-10-2008 at 02:04 AM

his oud is not mojamed fadel
the soundboard is made of ceader, mohamed fadel didn't use ceader,
the peg box is not mohamed fadel
akram

Samer - 9-23-2008 at 03:44 PM

Thanks a lot for all of you, you have being a great help.

Take care,

TAFTAF - 9-27-2008 at 02:20 PM

sorry i am late but now faik mohamed fadhel the oldest son of fadhel (1904 - 2002) and the only one left in Iraq. has submitted a full dirary sheets to the ministry of culture and Arts IRAQ. concerning all on the authenticity of this oud of fadel or fadhel. and you can contact the ministry or faik directly about that but it was good to contact yaroub since he is one of the best now in Tunis. good day and Eid Mubarak. :D

Salam. :bounce:

Ronny Andersson - 12-16-2008 at 02:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by akram
his oud is not mojamed fadel
the soundboard is made of ceader, mohamed fadel didn't use ceader,
the peg box is not mohamed fadel
akram


You are completely wrong with both your statement. This soundboard is not made of cedar but of a pine specie. I have owned ouds by Fadel with soundboards made of cedar. Even Omar Bashir have ouds with cedar soundboards made by Fadel.

Ronny Andersson - 12-16-2008 at 02:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TAFTAF
sorry i am late but now faik mohamed fadhel the oldest son of fadhel (1904 - 2002) and the only one left in Iraq. has submitted a full dirary sheets to the ministry of culture and Arts IRAQ. concerning all on the authenticity of this oud of fadel or fadhel. and you can contact the ministry or faik directly about that but it was good to contact yaroub since he is one of the best now in Tunis. good day and Eid Mubarak. :D

Salam. :bounce:


Is this really true? When the labels are just a mess and even my friend who has been at the workshop in Iraq got info. about the labels which were printed in various models at different places. Sorry but I dont trust this.

Jassim - 12-21-2008 at 03:15 AM

its fake oud my freind

Ronny Andersson - 12-21-2008 at 07:22 AM

by his sons or maybe one of them my friend

Sam - 4-7-2009 at 05:12 PM

fake one

Ararat66 - 4-7-2009 at 11:46 PM

All this talk of fake or not ... I understand the importance of this ... but you say it SOUNDS AMAZING !!!!!

Are you collecting or playing;) (I already know the answer my friend).

Why not buy but put in a lower offer as it is not 'genuine'.

Leon

DaveH - 4-8-2009 at 12:23 AM

Indeed, Leon. But I find it very comforting that those who cry "fake" seem often to have merchandise of their own to offer.