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Nahat Oud 1885 !!

Samer - 10-13-2008 at 04:11 AM

Dear all,

I was offered this oud in Damasucs, Syria, Im %100 sure that this is oud is real and all parts are original.

I’m currently not in a position to buy such an expensive oud now.

Let me know what u guys think.

Take care

Samer - 10-13-2008 at 04:12 AM


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Samer - 10-13-2008 at 04:15 AM


More pics

Samer - 10-13-2008 at 04:18 AM


Jameel - 10-13-2008 at 04:42 AM

Wow. That's an old one.

nadir - 10-13-2008 at 05:09 AM

Wow... those are some contacts that you have!

GeorgeK - 10-13-2008 at 05:41 AM

What a beauty and in remarkable condition for a 123year old. Thanks for the pics.

In the label shot, it apprears that the seams are reinforced with paper. I was under the impression
that, in the past, glue and sawdust were used to reinforce the joint. However I dont know if that
is true or not...can someone confirm.

Samer, do you have a sound clip? It would be something to listen to this ancient.

Thanks again for sharing.

Samer - 10-13-2008 at 06:57 AM

its an amazing oud, great condition for its age, plus all parts are original.

I wish I was in a condition to buy such an oud.

I will ask the owner if he can get me a sound sample and more pictures.

Thanks,

Samer - 10-30-2008 at 04:18 AM

Dear All,

I’m very tempted to buy this oud, Can any of you estimate the real value of this oud so I can negotiate with the seller.

Regards,

suz_i_dil - 11-3-2008 at 01:27 PM

Indeed this oud is real beauty, but I'm nearly sure it has been restored. Difficult to believe the soundboard is so well after 123 years, and without any varnish.
Then I may be wrong, but if there were any restoration it is important to know which kind. I mean if there was any change to the soundboard or brassing, this is not a Nahat anymore.

For the value...in any case surevaluate. In syria I was proposed once an abdo Nahat, for 400 euros. But this was when I beginned oud and didn't took the offer, didn't realized. Now with the increase of demand, and the fact oud is becoming always more popular in occidental countries, prices are flying away, and they may even ask you a whole year of syrian salary for this oud.

To my point I prefer staying with actual maker, who are really making great work, to my point better to part of restored old ouds, even if there is not the magic of playing an old instrument...but to be totally honest, I still keeping an eye, to seek for an old original oud at a good price when I go there.

Regards

oudplayer - 11-4-2008 at 05:25 AM

hey guys

wow nice oud, looks amazingly clean and all. good luck with it and all what ever you do with it.

SUZ_I_DIL: yr right abotu the face of the oud , its hard to belive that there is no varnish , but my great uncle got a nahat from i think 1904, that is still intact, i told peopel this a few years back. and he plays it like no other. he lives in LOndon, he is older now and he keeps telling my dad its in supurb condtion and all. he said "as long as you take care of yr stuff , it will take care of you".

so anything is possable. plus being in dry area it sometimes couses warping problem , no?

ttyl
thx sammy

suz_i_dil - 11-4-2008 at 01:14 PM

Thank you oud player for your message, and confirming you have seen such old oud in perfect condition, this was just a bit hard to believe, but indeed in good place and good careful hands why not.
Regards

Ararat66 - 11-5-2008 at 12:52 PM

Hey Sammy

Where's your uncle in London - does he teach oud?

Leon

oudplayer - 11-5-2008 at 03:28 PM

hey Ararat

he lives in standford hill, He does not teach, he told me his fingers dont move how he wants them to move anymore so he hasnt played for years. he is in his 90s i beilive.
I hope to see him this summer coming up.

thx sammy

Cool!

Oud987 - 11-6-2008 at 08:50 AM

That's one cool Oud! - Very pretty and well kept even for its age! :-)

Samer - 11-8-2008 at 02:41 AM

Thanks for your advice and nice comments. I went to see the oud again, I took an expert with me this time who is being dealing with Nahat ouds for all his life.

He confirmed that all parts are original, even the chest ! he was amazed as well.

the oud is owned by a family who are into music and and the know the value of such a oud.

Maybe that’s why it was very well kept.

Im really considering buying it now.

I will keep you posted if I end up buying it.

suz_i_dil - 11-8-2008 at 02:55 AM

Looking forward to hearing it, hope you may share a soundfile of this instrument with us.
Regards.