Siminì
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HELP!
Hi All!
My Name Is Simone, I Come From Rome, Italy, I'm 22 And I Started To Play Oud Some Month Ago! I Love Oud..But I Have Some Problems With His
Amplification..I Play Oud In A Rock/Metal Band, REALLY HEAVY SOUND!!
I Need To Resolve Also Only The Problems With Low Volume (Sometimes I Can't hear me, especially when guitars and drum play heavly)..
I Have A Question:
Now I Have This PickUp From Shadows Really Cheap..And I Play Oud Whit A 100watt Ampl Or Direct In A Mixer Impliant..
http://www.shadow-electronics.com/viewpro.html?lang_id=&id=53
If Instead I'll Buy This One,Do I Will Have More Volume And A Better Sound Quality?
http://www.shadow-electronics.com/viewpro.html?lang_id=&id=190
Please, I Need Some Tips
Listen What I Play For An Idea
http://www.myspace.com/adeproject click on POMERIUM and Oud Intro
I Play Oud From April..
Exuse Me For My Bad English And My Very Low Experience About Oud, And Exuse Me For My ''NOT TRADITIONAL AND CORRECT'' Playing of Oud..Sorry 
THANX!!!!!!!!
MY MAIL / msn contact is
simone_dandrea@hotmail.it
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Sazi
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Hey Simone, nice little intro , the second pickup you point to costs a lot more
so it would want to sound better, however I asked someone who uses one and he say's they are not immune to feedback in a loud situation...(oud is very
sensitive!) Listening to the rest of the band makes me think you'd be better off with a solid body electric oud...
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Edward Powell
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go for 2 ouds... one solid body for the loud sections... and a normal oud for the quiet parts (and in studio).
this is the only way. You will NEVER compete for volume with an electric guitar metal style in a LIVE situation. Don't waste your time trying 
--or you can try filling your oud completely with newspaper? [but what a terrible sound]
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Marcus
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Hi Simone 
welcome to the forum!!
I use the SH 700 NFX, because I thought my bluesband, where I play the oud sometimes, is loud. For me it works perfect, no feedbacks at all.But
loudness is a very stretchable word...no comparison between our definitions of LOUD!!!
So....go for a solid body electrified oud.
I agree with sazi....nice intro, not soooo far from '' TRADITIONAL AND CORRECT'' Playing of Oud.
Hope you find a solution!
Greetings from germany,
Marcus
PS: Listen to what he does with his e-oud, hope you like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7GVsP3dsAE&feature=related
Playing the oud is like feeding my soul with peace
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Sazi
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Check out the oud in this one !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLwDZQdsPc
Beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder!!
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Siminì
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Thanx a Lot guys!! Really..
I'm in doubth now..but I'm Looking for an electric model..if you have some tips about any electric models, call me! thanx, you're all fantastic guys,
thanx
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paulO
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Hi Siminì,
Take Edward Powell's post to heart. For a serious solid body oud, send a note to Dr. Oud and ask about the oudtelestar, or you can try one of the many
other electric ouds on the market. That's the only way to go if you want to be heard in the setting you're describing. Best of luck man.
Reagards..Paul
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FLIPAX
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Hi!
I Like your heavy metal mix Folk spices!
Yes I do Recommend to get a solid body electric Oud for those kind of purposes. and it is much easiear to play on stage no need to worry about pic-ups
"which are, and what not to use".
Keep chugging that metal/folk stuff!
BTW hey guys any suggestion which brands of electric oud is the best sound quality. I maybe getting one this christmas!
Any Suggestion that has a good preamp system? It seems Najarian electric oud is the best? anymore brands or makers?
cheers
Philip
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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Siminì
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Anyone Can Indicate Me Ouds Can I Buy Through The Net? I Have About 400€ Euros..I Can't Find Beautiful Electric Ouds..Please Help Me!
I Found Only These..
http://cgi.ebay.it/Electric-Gawharet-El-Fan-Egyptian-Oud-Lute-W-Sof...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Gawharet-El-Fan-Egyptian-Oud-Lute-W-...
I Like This One, But The Seller Don't Send This Oud In Europe I Supposed..He Comes From Canada..
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SUKAR-ELECTRIC-PRO-CONCERT-ZAN-WOOD-OUD-MOD...
If You Have Some Tips About Electric Oud Selling, Call Me, Thanx!!!
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FLIPAX
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Hmmm
I check the links but the quality is not that good i still prefer najarian electric oud I supposed.
The sukar is Promising but Not sure on the Preamp though
Cheers
Philip
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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Luttgutt
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I have used SH 700 in a much "louder" setting then on this video (2 e-guitars, bass, synt, drums, vocal, and oud of course), and it worked find! much
more beautiful sound (at least, it sounds as a oud should : )
It was on the edge of feeding of course, but worked fine..
The sound man has to be good.. and he should choose your placing on stage carefully.
Good luck
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FLIPAX
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Hi Luttgutt!
Whats your Threshold Feedback Level?
Do u used any distortion or syth with your oud? Does the SH 700 Cab handle Effects quite nicely?
Thanks
Philip
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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John Erlich
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Najarian: http://www.oud.net/electric.htm
Sukkar: http://www.oudsukar.com/en/products_special_en.php
Any experiences to report with Najarian's pickups on an acoustic oud? I've never had any problems with feedback, but I perform with an 8-piece takht
ensemble, not a rock band!
-J
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FLIPAX
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Hi John!
I have an acoustic oud w/ najarian Pick-up Installed. What I can say is it's pretty nice and convincing sound still maintains its harmonic Subtleties.
You can still hear good dynamics and pretty natural sound. But we all know the limitations of a Pick-up Transducer compare to a good condenser
microphone in front of the oud. That is another case of choice I supposed. And even when it is plugged into a lot of series of pedals it doesn't
feedback. Especially when it's just Oud Solo.
I'm Just asking in electric coz I want to expand my bounderies here.
Thanks for asking John. Here's the My Oud with Najarian Pick-up Inside. Check further pages you can see I Post Just the Najarian Pickup Up close and
Personal.
Here's the link:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=9853
Cheers
Philip
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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Siminì
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I Love Mike's Oud Forum!!!!!!
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FLIPAX
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Yeah!
Cheers Bro!
Philip
Every time I Hear The Oud, I fall into a Deep Long Trance of Perpetual Bliss!
"Naseem Al Rooh"
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