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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 08:18 AM
how to make yr oud glow?


hey guys..quick question,,,hw do i make my oud glow? as in makeing :)d wood shiny? wat do i apply to d body?

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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 08:36 AM


Hi,

shiny looking ouds usually have a french polish made of shellack done by the luthier, but the soundboard is not varnished in most cases.

But many luthiers use OIL instead of shellack.




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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 08:47 AM


Quote: Originally posted by stingerz  
hey guys..quick question,,,hw do i make my oud glow


....by playing faster and louder :))
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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 09:38 AM



Hi!


Probably the Best is to Bring Your Oud to a luthier.... So he can make sure that the results will be impecably shiny!:D

A Touch of French Polish would be great!

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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 09:47 AM


Quote: Originally posted by littleseb  

....by playing faster and louder :))


... or put a small red lamp inside the bowl :D

Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  

Probably the Best is to Bring Your Oud to a luthier...


... a violin or guitar luthier might help too.




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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 09:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Aymara  


... or put a small red lamp inside the bowl :D


:D

You also switch that light when u play. All u need is a 9 volts battery to supply the lamp inside. that would be sufficient perhaps:D

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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 10:46 AM


Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  

You also switch that light when u play.


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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 11:07 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Aymara  

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Awesome!:xtreme:




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[*] posted on 12-2-2009 at 10:17 PM


Different parts of the oud are made of different wood, and different woods and parts requires different care.

The pegs can be polished or varnished, but the part where they contact the pegbox should not be.

The bowl and pegbox are often thickly varnished, or French Polished with shellac, and can be cleaned and shined up with a normal furniture polish. Always test on a little area first.

The fingerboard is a special case and is best covered with a very hard coating to protect the wood from the wear caused by the strings. This is best done by a professional, though you can read up and do it yourself too. If your fingerboard is a hard ebony, it's sufficient to clean it with an oil-based furniture polish, but keep that stuff off the strings.

The back of the neck needs to be clean and smooth so it doesn't slow down your playing. Don't goop it down, clean it and polish it with something light.

The spray "finger-ease" is OK as a final pass for the strings and the fingerboard and the back of the neck, it makes the strings fast and slick and quiets the excess "zzzipp" as your fingers slide on wound strings. It seems to be safe on all finishes, I've used it on basses and guitars for over 30 years, and on ouds a little shorter :D

Whatever you do, do not oil a natural wood soundboard, this can destroy it. Oil is great to quiet things down. Oil is viscous and even Tung oil which sets hard has a flexibility to it that "eats" the sound. What you want is something brittle that will let the wood vibrate, like an alcohol-based shellac. French Polishing is a process of applying many many layers of a solution of shellac in alcohol, using a little pad. This can be done over many days, and each layer dries instantly. It's the best thing to use on a soundboard. It keeps dirt from sticking to the raw wood, and can even be washed off with alcohol if you mess up the layers and need to start over! If you do the job right it gives a beautiful golden shine. A varnish is easier to apply, but not as beautiful or as good for the sound. If the soundboard is raw wood don't use any polishes to clean it. If you don't want to do the French Polishing, read up on using egg white, it's easy, and will seal the wood and stop dirt from sticking.

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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 02:22 AM


HI!

Good Deal here again Mr Tony!:applause:

Stingerz Listen to Fernandray here His thoughts are Very Precious! and his his advises are always a heartful.

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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 04:16 AM


ok thanks guys..reli appreciate it... btw my oud is super light..i dnt kw why...is tt ok? cos from wat i understand,d better d wood is.d heavier it is...jus like rosewood and elder. i dnt even know wat wood is my oud made of...but its sure damn light...:shrug:
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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:01 AM


Mine is Normal weight but not that light.

I have Indian rosewood. The only fact to consider is the lighter the soundboard the more responsive the oud will be. its ok to have a little thick but in order for the oud to sound its best is to take maybe some 2-3 yrs to open up the sound. but on the other case if you have a lighter oud then it should directly sound good already no need to wait for some years.

A Light oud is just fine. But the thing to consider if it has a thin soundboard then it is more prone to crack. so be careful not to put too much pressure on it. especially heavier gauge tension strings. That's all you need to be worry about.

The Rest are Fine.:D

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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:09 AM


My good (rosewood) oud is heavy but has a light sound, my cheaper (walnut) one is light but has a warm mellow sound.



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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:15 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Sazi  
My good (rosewood) oud is heavy but has a light sound, my cheaper (walnut) one is light but has a warm mellow sound.


But saz I have same walnut oud before and its pretty light its like you can hold it around and use it like a cricket bat.:D

You don't feel that u have an instrument with u.:shrug: I sold it a couple of months ago. It was a syrian Oud.


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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:24 AM


This is mine, Iraqi, very light but I love it! It's easier to carry around too, your arm doesn't feel like it's gonna fall off when you're travelling with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5fbCtmpd8




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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:42 AM


Thanks for the Video Clip!

You're the best Saz!:applause:

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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:46 AM


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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:51 AM


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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 07:56 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
French Polishing is a process of applying many many layers of a solution of shellac in alcohol, using a little pad. This can be done over many days, and each layer dries instantly. It's the best thing to use on a soundboard.


Yes, but on the soundboard usually the shellac is very thin ... 2-3 layers only.




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[*] posted on 12-3-2009 at 05:35 PM



Hey Chris!:wavey:

hhmm Better soundboard without finish.

It will add some treble on your oud unless you want that sound!:shrug:


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[*] posted on 12-4-2009 at 10:57 AM


Quote: Originally posted by FLIPAX  

hhmm Better soundboard without finish.


A very thin shellack layer is no problem.




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