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[*] posted on 6-6-2010 at 11:06 PM


Mohammadi bros believe that wooden pick guards effect the sound of the instrument, so that is the reason why they donot use wooden pick guards on their instruments.

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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 03:28 AM


Hi folks
I saw the Mohammadi rebabs...so so so beautiful, I would like to buy one, but I dont know if I can play with this kind of rebab afghan music, and also arabic music... are the distance between musical notes, the same in irani music than in arabic music??
Can I play this instrument with my bands, playing some western music and some eastern music???
I dont know anything about persian music...I would like to learn it...
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 04:48 AM


Wonderful instruments, made by highly skilled masters.
does this instruments not belong in a museum? :)
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 06:05 AM


Those rababs are different from the Afghan version. The metalic frets can be moved up and down. They have a hook on them that allows them to ride the fingerboard. It's really neat.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 06:29 AM


Exactly peyman. thanx for explanation. i wonder that you do know that.

The instruments are in the museum of Morty:)

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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 09:30 AM


I am not sure but I think I read about the Mohammadi's version of the robab in a music magazine. They show it on their website too.
Mortys, you should take out the instruments from the museum and make videos :D
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 11:19 AM


I think these instruments are absolutely amazing, particularly the Mohammadi Barbat which has to my ears an extraordinary sound quality, very 'noble', refined and beautiful balanced tone. Love the sound of the Arafati oud also and the playing is beautiful, really beautiful, particularly liked the playing on the Arafati oud - who are the musicians?

I find the ornamentation on the Mohammadi Barbat stunning, there is something about the Persian/Iranian sense of poetry and design that I find very moving and serene. I used to go to Iran as a child, my mother was born there (Armenian) and I have a soft spot for the country and its people and culture dispite difficult politics.

The larger images take a while to upload ... but imho completely worth the wait. If I could (without risking divorce etc!!!) I'd buy the Mohammadi Barbat tomorrow - it's sublime.

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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 11:24 AM


btw are you any relation of Hussein Alizadeh ???

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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 11:33 PM


Our grand pa's had some kind of relation, but now we're not close family.
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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 11:52 PM


Hi Mortys

Ah I know how that is. Who is playing on these clips btw ... is it you?

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[*] posted on 6-7-2010 at 11:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by sabbassi  
does this instruments not belong in a museum? :)


Though this was ment as a funny compliment, it's more real as you think.

I read in a documentation article, that Mohammadi brothers learned instrument building from the iranian master Ebrahim Ghanbari Mehr and guess what ... the instruments of this master are considered Iranian cultural treasures, so that it is forbidden to export them.




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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 12:53 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Ararat66  
Hi Mortys

Ah I know how that is. Who is playing on these clips btw ... is it you?

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The player is a good friend of mine, he doen't want to be mentioned, sorry. I do respect his privacy by not mentioning his name.
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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 12:56 AM


Dear Chris,

Ja they are the best students of Ustad Ganbari and yes the instruments made by Ustad are indeed national/cultural treasures and are not subjects to export from Iran!!
I mentioned this also on my website under the article about Mohammadi Bros!
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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 08:46 AM


Hi folks
anybody knows where can I found some music with irani rebab players????
some cds, music store, website...
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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 01:09 PM


Quote: Originally posted by michoud  
... some music with irani rebab players????


You can find several Rubab videos at Youtube, but most seem to be of Afghan origin.




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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 01:22 PM


Thanks Aymara
I cant find any video in youtube with iranian rubab...all are afghanistan rebab...but what I need is some music or video with iranian rebab...it´s very difficult, but if mohammadi brothers made this kind of rebab, I think someone play it...;)
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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 03:12 PM


Hi Mortys

Completely understand and respect your friend's wishes but could you pass on my appreciation of his playing to him, it's really very nice!

thanks

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[*] posted on 6-8-2010 at 04:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by michoud  
Thanks Aymara
I cant find any video in youtube with iranian rubab...all are afghanistan rebab...but what I need is some music or video with iranian rebab...it´s very difficult, but if mohammadi brothers made this kind of rebab, I think someone play it...;)


michoud,
They use Persian robabs in ensembles, as a kind of a bass instrument. I haven't seen anyone make a solo porject. Nima Alizadeh is the robab player in his father's Hamavayan ensemble. He plays solo in a few of those albums. You can listen to a sample here:
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/hamavayan
It's the 4th song called Instrumental in Esfahanak (it's a duet with kamancheh).

This video from Mastan group also show-cases some Persian style robab playing but it's not the Mohammadi style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K--z5Hd9M8o
Starts about 45 seconds in. You can search for Hamavayan on youtube and you'll see some videos of Nima.

Historically, plucked robabs were important instruments in Persian music. Showqname ensemble uses them too:
http://www.showqname.com/intro.htm
Hope you find what you're looking for.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2010 at 10:36 PM


About Persian Rubab. Peyman is correct, they usually turn up in ensemble music, often in a bass like capacity along side Tar. We have seen three or four configurations so far.

I have a Jafrudi instrument that is strung quite heavily with a wider neck that has a distinctive bass like sound. It has tied frets in Persian scale and a tone that is much lower and more mellow than even the classical Afghan Rubab. This one has seven side strings and three long drones. I love it as it sounds like nothing else I have heard. But sadly even my contacts in Iran have been unable to find any music recordings that feature this instrument.

We just placed a custom order for a second Jafrudi instrument that will be very much like the on in the photos on the site from this thread. But it is not quite the same master level despite being very wonderful quality.

This one has smaller strings much like the standard size Afghan instrument. It has 11 side strings and three long drones. It is set up for Persian music, again as an ensemble instrument. But a local player in Japan Madoka from the band Makyo plays this same type as a solo instrument. It is wonderfully moody and gentle and I would not compare it at all to any of the Afghan instruments. Instead it is much more Barbat or Oud like in mood.

Finally the maker who produces Afghan instruments for us has made a Herati Type Rubab that is quite similar to Baluchistani instruments. It is set up like a Tar in many ways but with a much shorter neck that is only a bit longer than that on standard Afghan instruments. But the six tied frets make the scale Persian and the tone is somewhere between the Afghan instrument and the Persian instrument.

The Rubab is truly a Lion of instruments. The Afghans have several configurations. I play a large classical instrument as well as a standard size instrument which is my main instrument in our band RainInEden. If you want to hear more of the Afghan instrument, let me know and I can recommend some wonderful recordings.
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[*] posted on 7-13-2010 at 10:37 PM


Peyman. I love Mastan!!!! Brilliant musicians and performers. Would be a dream to see them live some day.

I noticed that the instrument he is playing on the 13 part series on Youtube looks like a classical Afghan instrument with some modifications.
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 02:56 AM


Nice work :) It always feels good whenever more and more people try to promote this community.

I included a reference to your website on mine, http://www.redaaouad.com, in the Interesting Links section.




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[*] posted on 8-8-2010 at 12:41 AM


Hi Reda,
Thanx for your generosity, like your playing style great work:bowdown:
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[*] posted on 8-8-2010 at 09:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by RubabPlayer  
Peyman. I love Mastan!!!! Brilliant musicians and performers. Would be a dream to see them live some day.


They're always touring. It won't be that long before they show up around you. They're coming around the east coast soon.

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[*] posted on 8-8-2010 at 10:37 PM


Dear friends,

I thought you all gonna like this!!!
If you want to experience how Mohammadi bros instruments sound together, watch this video, played by professional group Rastak.
http://www.rastak.ir/videos






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[*] posted on 8-9-2010 at 09:51 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Mortys  
I thought you all gonna like this!!!


You can count on it ... this ensemble really rocks :applause:




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