freya
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Very Old Oud on Ebay
Currently. Can be seen at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=623&...
Can anyone read the makers label to see its origin?
Freya
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Elie Riachi
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it says:
Brothers Arjah shop
Sham
Makes all kinds of mobilia
and manufacturing of all musical instruments
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chuckerbutty
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I take it they were furniture makers as well, then?
Very pretty roses. It's a shame that nobody seems to be using the bird pattern any more - much nicer than the treble clefs and whatnot.
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journeyman
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Has anyone had any experience buying and old oud like this one that is in need of major restoration? I'd love to own an old Syrian oud, but not
if it costs way more than the oud is worth to have it restored . And then there is the chance that it just won't sound that good. Any
comments?
Cheers,
Roy
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Dr. Oud
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Restoring an old oud has some risk but also might result in a treasure. If you want a guarantee, go to Sears. alas, they don't sell old ouds.
This oud is missing some edging as well as the wood surrounding the rose holes, although they can be rebuilt. It looks to be mostly intact, but the
face may be rotted. A new face can recover the tone if it is built correctly. The bracing inside the face is important for recovering the tone, but
you won't know that before buying it. Restoration for this oud could run around $1000-$1500 I'd guess. If it has the tone, it would be worth
at least twice or perhaps 3 times that, depending. The inlay is very tasteful and looks like it's well done. the label might be just where it was
sold, and may not be the maker. Caveat Emptor! Roll the dice!
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chuckerbutty
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The label says 1924 or 1934 (can't make out which) in the bottom left corner.
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journeyman
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Thanks for the insight. Someday when I have the extra cash I'll go for it and get one of these ouds in need of restoration. There is something
about the older Syrian ouds that I find very attractive; some aesthetic that I can't put my finger on.....
Peace,
Roy
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Jonathan
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The rosettes are beautiful. While I have never seen a large rosette quite like that one, the two smaller rosettes are of a pattern that I have seen
on other older ouds. Exactly, the same, in fact. I used to think that perhaps they were all made by the same person, but clearly that is not the
case. Still, the rosettes are always just about identical, right down to the position of theleaves. Does anybody know if this is a copy of some
famous oud maker's pattern? I love the design, and I am curious where it started.
For example, see image 7 in Pablo's oud rosette data bank:
http://oudpage.tripod.com/rosettes.htm
Or, even the last oud in
http://www.varjouds.com
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Jonathan
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I missed it before, but image 3 in Pablo's rosette data bank also has the same pattern n the small rosettes.
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