sylvainbd
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Read sheet music during seminar LMW
Hi oud lovers
I saw some videos of seminars on youtube ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dl6x42T-Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hOuaMGEtKM
... I am not sur but apparently every students read scores !
I wonder if it is very advisable to read partition to participate in seminars of labyrinth musical workshop.
It is not too difficult to follow lessons without reading ?!
Best regard
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fernandraynaud
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Du cote Anglais-Americain le mot partition ne signifie rien de musical. On dit "sheet music" ou "a score". On dit "can you read music?"
You wonder if it's essential to be able to read music to follow such a seminar?
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sylvainbd
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Merci Fernandraynaud pour ces conseils de traduction !
Je remet à jour mon topic ...
...Exactly ! Since i play music , i always searched to increase my level in listening... sometimes with a recorder 
Somebody know if the use of written scores is essential to a seminar with Yurdal Tokcan ?
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Jason
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What is the large rebab/lyra instrument he's playing towards the end?
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spartan
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Yes. In the Labyrinth seminars they use music scores/sheets and they use the turkish system not the european/arabic
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farukturunz
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Do you mean this instrument?
http://www.spikefiddle.com/instrumentsframe.htm
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Re-bonjour Sylud
Yes indeed, it does seem necessary from what I can see, maybe someone else can clarify.
And as Spartan mentioned, the Turkish musical notation method is different from the European and Arabic, for a start the notes are raised by a 4th so
a C (Do) becomes a F (Fa), a A (La) becomes a D (Re), and so on on as Yurdal Tokcan explains in this nice video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vI8mvUk9Q
So in my case I see that I will not only have to get used to a new tuning, but also a different type of musical notation!!
Well it's all part of the fun 
Ahmed
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hello!
--> spartan
hmmm... I don't read music at all (except by counting the lines...) also , do you think it is a real issue for Yurdal's seminar?
thanks
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reminore
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c'est le meme mot en grec - partitura...partition - probably from the italian.
i think i responded to a query of ahmed's regarding ud tuning and the seminars already...i can add that when i was at xoudetsi last year i didn't read
'partitions'...i've always depended on being a quick learner and having a good ear for nuance in makam - unfortunately i have no western music theory
at all, something i've always felt has been a plus in terms of the study of makam, as i am not trying to constantly look for cognates on the staff
when moving from supurde to bolahenk so to speak...
participating in the seminar has changed all that because i realized the necessity of reading for multiple long pieces - too much for the mnemonic
technique in too short a time -if you catch my drift. 6 days, and 5 or 6 pieces of music to be performed at an open concert the last night. there
is not an atmosphere of pressure, but you need to keep your teslims and hanes in a row! by the end of the week i was comfortable remembering and
playing only half the material...faruk t. remembers i'm sure (faruk agabey - selam, ben kosta, beni hatiliyor musun?) the piece of advice mentioned
before was to bring a good recording device that you can refer back to later in the day for study (which is when not being able to read music is a
liability)...imagine, playing hard for 3 hours, having some lunch at one of three small tavernas in the village, the locusts are so loud you almost
deafened by them...the heat, and then you want to sit and study what you just learned that a.m...
the lesson learned is now i read scores, albeit slowly - but faster all the time.
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spartan
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Quote: Originally posted by stos  | hello!
--> spartan
hmmm... I don't read music at all (except by counting the lines...) also , do you think it is a real issue for Yurdal's seminar?
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Hello stos
I think it could be a serious problem, UNLESS you have a very good ear and you can play directly what you hear.
They play several samais and other classical pieces that 's hard to remember . But that was the old way.
On the other hand Yordal's seminar is also based on technique, so at this part I think you can follow without problem.
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