oudsharqi
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Targan´s Ferahfeza Saz Semaisi arabic nota?
Hi all,
does any one know where to find Ferahfeza Saz Semaisi by Targan in arabic notation?
Thanks!
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suz_i_dil
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You will find a score of this great piece in Jamil Bashir oud method book.
search the forum, it is available online for download
regards !
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Is Jamil Bashir's really the only Arabic score of this piece generally available? It's pretty hard to read, and actually goes higher above the staff
than some available Turkish scores of the piece. I have attached both the Bashir score and will attempt to post a Turkish score separately. What
gives?
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John Erlich
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A Turkish score, which actually goes less above the staff: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lEAPQOdGzgM/TSXaZ5XBPsI/AAAAAAAAAD8/tb61j... (Posting a link rather than the file, because of image size limitations.)
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Here it is.
Attachment: Farahfaza Samai - Serif Muhittin Targan.pdf (441kB)
This file has been downloaded 314 times
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suz_i_dil
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Seems there is a number of version for Jamil Bashir score.
the one I have begin in Bb which is the correct one if you want to play farahfeza in G.. it came also from an edition of Jamil Bashir method book.
beginning in F is high. Maybe this version because of the usual tuning of Jamil Bashir which was F tuned + 1 tone higher. In this case beginning the
samay in F(like on the score John Erlich shared) would be the same fingering than on a oud tuned in C with the samay beginning from Bb
With the same logic the one beginning in E shared by microber would fit the same fingering on a oud tune in F.
So, this long writing for a simple message: all are the same. The one to use would just depend if you want to follow your tuning or transpose directly
while reading. Not a big deal actualy, you can use the score of Microber on a oud tune in F. Or if you want to get the most usual tonality of G for
farahfeza, on a oud tune in C but play/read as if your oud was tune in f: this way you get the usual tonality of G. Just an advice but anyway
practically you will agree using the score of Microber and begin the samay in E on a oud tune in C would not be playable at all.
I have the pdf beginning in Bb if you don't want to transpose but cannot upload,the file is too big
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Hey suz_i_dil,
The score i send is perfectly playable on an oud tuned in C.
The highest note is G on the neck-body junction on the C string.
So not a big deal.
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suz_i_dil
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Hello Microber
Thanks for the feedback. Indeed you are correct.
but i'm not sure the 4th khane is correct, I oftenly heard it (and learned it actually) beginning one octave higher. And in this case that would be
perfectly unplayable in this tonality. I don't know if it is a matter of style or if the original score is like this. I have Serif Targan method,I
will check the original score and let you know.
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suz_i_dil
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Like in this wonderful version for Ahmad Al Khatib for example
https://youtu.be/OrIccCXMLhw
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suz_i_dil
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At least find a way to send a reduced sized of the score. That will be clearer than words
Seems the issue is mostly in the first sentence of the 4th khane. On my score from Jamil Bashir it is a Kurd ascending sentence which go from D to D
but on the very high octave, 2 octaves up.
Still have to be compared with the original score as proposed in Serif Targan method book
Regards
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suz_i_dil
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Hello
so here is pictures for the original score proposed by Serif Targan.
there is indeed those high register sentences in the 3rd and 4th khane.not surprise the score of Jamil Bashir is correct toward the original..he was
student with Serif Muhieddeen Targan.
Note the sentence proposed by Jamil Bashir to open the 4th khane appears written at the end of the original score as " diger ". I don't speak a word
of Turkish but I bet the note at the end of the page,and the " D..... " refers to this sentence as a variation for the 4th khane
So one have better to begin in Bb if he wants to play it as it was composed if his oud is tuned in C
And all those also intersting to remember us to refer as much to the origin source to learn a new piece or to its original culture to study a new
maqam
Best regards to all
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