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[*] posted on 7-17-2005 at 02:08 PM
Cengiz Sarikus


I love this site, first I was taken with the many antique ouds in his collection and one in particular holds a very curious spot in me, the Kalfayan oud . Then went to his site this past week and had the pleasure to view a very special and apparently well crafted (?) patchwork oud (?) and if that not enough, check out the face. Great imagination. I would love to hear it played.
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[*] posted on 7-17-2005 at 02:37 PM


Cengiz Sarikus' website is http://www.veyselmuzik.com

Andy, is this the patchwork oud you are talking about?: http://www.veyselmuzik.com/i2/ayhan_asan2.jpg
http://veyselmuzik.com/i2/ayhan_asan1.jpg




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[*] posted on 7-17-2005 at 03:51 PM


Yes Jonathan, that is the one. What do you think of it? Just the idea of fitting those pieces together and having everything match and the color combination I find artistic and original.
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[*] posted on 8-2-2005 at 02:43 AM


I have seen such "patch work" on a baglama, played by Ali Ekber Cicek. When people talk about Cicek, they always mention "the baglama made of a thousand pieces." It seems to be the same idea to a tee. I am not sure if Cengiz Sarikus made the baglama or not, but my guess is that he did not. He also has an oud shaped, more or less, like a guitar.
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[*] posted on 8-3-2005 at 12:06 AM


Ali Ekber Cicek's patch work saz was made by my first master Yusuf Atasoy in 1960 at Ankara.After Yusuf Atasoy,his friend Huseyin Koluman made 2 or 3 patch work sazs before he died in 1990.



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[*] posted on 8-7-2005 at 08:59 AM


Hello ktb711 and Haluk, In his email to me he did not say if he made the oud but on the his site he has Ayhan Asan as the owner of the patchwork oud. There must be lots of work and patience that goes into this oud. The guitar shaped oud that he calls nev ud is quite different and looks like a cross between oud and guitar. Even his version of cumbus, the one he calls ahenk, is different with wooden staved body, spuce top (I think) and skin under the bridge with all the inlaid embelishments. Are there any pictures on line of the patchwork baglamas that you mention on the internet?
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[*] posted on 1-8-2006 at 07:31 PM
about ayhan asan's oud


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Cengiz Sarikus' website is http://www.veyselmuzik.com

Andy, is this the patchwork oud you are talking about?: http://www.veyselmuzik.com/i2/.jpg
http://veyselmuzik.com/i2/ayhan_asan1.jpg



this oud near 1000+ piece.
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[*] posted on 1-8-2006 at 08:41 PM


wefra, try this one, you should be able to find it here.
http://www.veyselmuzik.com/i2/ayhan_asan2.jpg
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[*] posted on 1-8-2006 at 08:47 PM


Interesting oud. I wonder how much it weighs. Surely the patchwork is glued to a typical staved body, right? I can't imagine otherwise. For a kid of the 70's, it brings back some memories of the styles of that era.



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[*] posted on 1-9-2006 at 02:44 AM
nice looking oud


Hey Jameel

I like the look of this oud - Is there a good reason why it is done that way?

Do not tell me that it has to be played by a clown :D




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[*] posted on 1-9-2006 at 07:33 PM


It just seems like there would have to be hide glue used with plenty of paper support on all the seams. Looks like it is symetrical but yes looks like it is very heavy. Very unusual, nice contrasting shades of wood. It would be great to get some knowledgable opinions on the construction of this oud.
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[*] posted on 1-9-2006 at 07:45 PM


Haluk, what do you think of this oud construction.
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[*] posted on 1-9-2006 at 09:40 PM


I know that patcwork closely.It needs very big patience.In 1960 my first master of baglama was made this patchwork bowl for an artist of Ankara radio.There is nothing under the patchwork bowl.On a mold, every piece was conformed each other and glued one by one.The first bowl was made on a broken hand carved bowl for to complete it.

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[*] posted on 1-10-2006 at 07:54 AM


Thank you Haluk, so the only support is the hide glue with paper over all the inside joints. The mold has to be a solid mold or like you mention a broken oud. Do you think this patch work oud bowl has much strength and do you think the top would have to be made thicker than usual to add to the strength. From the picture this oud looks a little smaller but not small like a zenne oud. What do you think?
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